2027 Met Gala Theme: ‘John Galliano: Horizons’

[NUTELLA 26,991]

2 minutes ago, onionring said:

I remember a time were threads were being taken down left and right, good times good times 

Bizarre take for a forum lol

[onionring 970]

9 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

Bizarre take for a forum lol

Not really, alot of threads now are not fun at all and enrich snappy, cynical posts for the sake of it. I wasn't a member till like a year ago so maybe as guest I didn't get the full picture, and maybe it's nostalgia and all but I remember this site being a ton more fun honestly. 

Old man angry at a cloud? Sure, Idk but trolling was better, people would try to educate folks rather than come in hot with us v. them mentality, and people actually spent a good time here, now we're all miserable. I'm not sure if there's a correlation between this site being more controlled and the loss of community or if we're all older and being an a$s comes with the territory, or maybe I'm in my feelings for some reason or another anyway, I'm kinda all for ggd fascism atp 

[NUTELLA 26,991]

2 minutes ago, onionring said:

Not really, alot of threads now are not fun at all and enrich snappy, cynical posts for the sake of it. I wasn't a member till like a year ago so maybe as guest I didn't get the full picture, and maybe it's nostalgia and all but I remember this site being a ton more fun honestly. 

Old man angry at a cloud? Sure, Idk but trolling was better, people would try to educate folks rather than come in hot with us v. them mentality, and people actually spent a good time here, now we're all miserable. I'm not sure if there's a correlation between this site being more controlled and the loss of community or if we're all older and being an a$s comes with the territory, or maybe I'm in my feelings for some reason or another anyway, I'm kinda all for ggd fascism atp 

Agree to disagree

I could understand removing specific comments that violate explicit rules, but locking a thread (after allowing yourself to have the final comment & then leaving the thread still visible rather than removing it altogether, to boot) is weird. Sorry.

Paralyzing an entire conversation happening between other people because you don’t like it/it upsets you is less “moderating” & more “censoring”

Now of all times, let's not go out of our way to encourage or invite any type of "fascism," regardless of setting/context lol

[onionring 970]

11 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

Agree to disagree

I could understand removing specific comments that violate explicit rules, but locking a thread (after allowing yourself to have the final comment & then leaving the thread still visible rather than removing it altogether, to boot) is weird. Sorry.

Paralyzing an entire conversation happening between other people because you don’t like it/it upsets you is less “moderating” & more “censoring”

 

Even if said conversation in of itself is harmful and triggering to people????! That hardly the first time the same conversation took place mind you and it time and time again leads to nowhere and always endsups triggering people .. hi I'm people.

Wtf, nahhh bro what kept being said in general was very dangerous overall and to be honest could very well tip someone over the edge so a mod stepping in and stopping a discourse that can legitimately hurt someone is the correct course of action here.

People knew damn well they were talking out their ass too when they said "oh no but it's not like Ariana could see this" forgetting other people on the site and viewing this whole thing would read it, feel like **** and just go on with their day, what are you even on talking about censoring, I felt insane for days on end like, if I was not in my right mind, I was thinking how are these folks not getting it, how ****ing awful they're being, is it just me seeing this.

So nah it wasn't just because it upset them the discussion was misinformed and dangerous and continuing it actually affected people and served noone, and mods should rightfully intervene and lock and close dangerous/harmful/unfruitful discussions. 

[NUTELLA 26,991]

30 minutes ago, onionring said:

Even if said conversation in of itself is harmful and triggering to people????! That hardly the first time the same conversation took place mind you and it time and time again leads to nowhere and always endsups triggering people .. hi I'm people.

Wtf, nahhh bro what kept being said in general was very dangerous overall and to be honest could very well tip someone over the edge so a mod stepping in and stopping a discourse that can legitimately hurt someone is the correct course of action here.

People knew damn well they were talking out their ass too when they said "oh no but it's not like Ariana could see this" forgetting other people on the site and viewing this whole thing would read it, feel like **** and just go on with their day, what are you even on talking about censoring, I felt insane for days on end like, if I was not in my right mind, I was thinking how are these folks not getting it, how ****ing awful they're being, is it just me seeing this.

So nah it wasn't just because it upset them the discussion was misinformed and dangerous and continuing it actually affected people and served noone, and mods should rightfully intervene and lock and close dangerous/harmful/unfruitful discussions. 

Sorry you were triggered.

The onus was on you (& anyone else similarly bothered) to not open or read the thread.

Sounds blunt, but that's the truth.

Prickly conversations like those have just as much chance to HELP vulnerable people as they do to trigger people.

Asking for it to be locked (not even for it to disappear, just be LOCKED... so it's still sitting there, unresolved, still available to "trigger" people) is/was self-centered.

edit- clarifying: not saying YOU specifically asked for it to be locked, though

Edited 20 hours ago by NUTELLA

[RAMROD 117,159]

May Gaga avoid this one like a plague 

[elijahfan 27,486]

12 hours ago, ALonelyNight said:

When I think of being a provocateur, I think of Gaga herself, wearing dresses made of raw meat, or (perhaps relevant to this topic) including an upside down pink triangle in a music video about gay rights.

I don't think of someone saying "Jews deserved to be gassed". That's not provocative as a statement, it's just bigoted

I guess there are different levels of provocation, sometimes people just want to piss other people off and that’s what he did. Doesn’t mean he actually meant what he said.

I’m also aware expressing my interest in this exhibition here is its own form of provocation, but I believe in redemption and I wish more people did.

Edited 12 hours ago by elijahfan

[Bronco 25,267]

11 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Doesn’t mean he actually meant what he said

I just don't buy this personally. 

I've been depressed. I've experienced the grief of losing a loved one. I've been heavily drunk and I've been high or tripping my balls off. 

Like a lot of people.

And praising Hitler and the Holocaust wasn't something that ever came to mind when fighting with friends or strangers. 

To pull from that level of absolute evil when the inhibitions are lowered is a sign that it was already there. 

And we need to recognise that his views aren't abnormal for european fashion designers and houses. 

Coco Chanel was a nazi collaborator.

Hugo Boss was a nazi.

D&G are notoriously far-right. 

Dior's creation was funded by a member of the Vichy regime. 

He is a part of a world that not only tolerated the nazis, but openly supported them and dressed them.

[nATAH 57,083]

2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

I guess there are different levels of provocation, sometimes people just want to piss other people off and that’s what he did. Doesn’t mean he actually meant what he said.

I’m also aware expressing my interest in this exhibition here is its own form of provocation, but I believe in redemption and I wish more people did.

then out of all the things that could have been said, why did he say that? watering it down like it's some casual thing a grumpy person says is crazy work

[elijahfan 27,486]

1 hour ago, nATAH said:

then out of all the things that could have been said, why did he say that? watering it down like it's some casual thing a grumpy person says is crazy work

I’m not saying that what he said wasn’t vile. That would be crazy work.

All I’m saying is none of us were in his shoes, hurt and sick people have different ways of reacting. What I know is that he’s never walked the life of an antisemite and was in a dark place back then, he has repented since and I don’t think being constantly brought back to past mistakes is the way to go in this situation. Then again, this is obviously a sensitive subject, so to each their own.

If I’m being honest, this « holier than thou » online crusade against anyone who’s ever made a mistake in their life is frankly tiresome, and that’s probably why I chose to say something here, knowing a flock of people would likely come after me. Wouldn’t be my first unpopular opinion on GGD, I can live with that.

[RAMROD 117,159]

excuses to a white man is really goes far lmao

Wonder if y'all who defending this gonna do the same when POC of the same or similar past, y'all probably be crickets as per usual 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,340]

34 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

excuses to a white man is really goes far lmao

Wonder if y'all who defending this gonna do the same when POC of the same or similar past, y'all probably be crickets as per usual 

Tbf I have seen folks on here try to defend Kanye’s Nazi comments as well lol

[nATAH 57,083]

2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

I’m not saying that what he said wasn’t vile. That would be crazy work.

All I’m saying is none of us were in his shoes, hurt and sick people have different ways of reacting. What I know is that he’s never walked the life of an antisemite and was in a dark place back then, he has repented since and I don’t think being constantly brought back to past mistakes is the way to go in this situation. Then again, this is obviously a sensitive subject, so to each their own.

If I’m being honest, this « holier than thou » online crusade against anyone who’s ever made a mistake in their life is frankly tiresome, and that’s probably why I chose to say something here, knowing a flock of people would likely come after me. Wouldn’t be my first unpopular opinion on GGD, I can live with that.

shouting pro nazi hate speech is not a mistake

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,631]

I'm not excusing his actions in any way, but I will say I know several people on here going hard against Galliano would not be keeping that energy for anything Bowie-related who had a similar era in his life. 

[Bronco 25,267]

1 minute ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I'm not excusing his actions in any way, but I will say I know several people on here going hard against Galliano would not be keeping that energy for anything Bowie-related who had a similar era in his life. 

Bowie is also a p*do on top of that coked up nazi routine he had going on