bxr 1,774 Posted Thursday at 02:07 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:07 AM Experimental … Spoiler Jesting aside … it might just feel like a new era, possibly a certain synthesis natural progressive graduation from the incumbent seven … but, somehow fundamentally alchemical Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 14,066 Posted Thursday at 02:07 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:07 AM 4 hours ago, Alvitr said: Honestly, she has proven she can do the grittier and dark stuff. Intense powerhouse vocal NOW I want the softness and ethereal singing and melodies. Give us Melodic Trance, angel and siren like singing. Hope and dance. YES THANK YOU More abracadabra vocals!!!!!!! More GOE vocals, more zombie boy chorus vocals! And she tapped a little bit into that with shape of a woman in the backing vocals ! But yeah I am tired of her delivering the same vocal style since ARTPOP. She sings so often the same way she sings on Manicure and Dope Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 14,066 Posted Thursday at 02:09 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:09 AM 2 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Like the way we got the OG MAYHEM and yet people still talk about a late stage concept that never came into fruition like it was the original 😭 The original Mayhem was suppose to feature Shape of a Woman as the lead single and the only song on the album. We were ROBBED!!!! Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 4,572 Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, TheARTPOPball said: The neurological process is she said it in an interview on record that the songs she was wanting to make at the time of its creation were heavier. She literally said that. I don’t know why you and others want to pretend that’s pulled out of thin air when the source is Gaga herself. It doesn’t really matter to me that the term “original mayhem” might not be the best way to describe it but it’s not some far reached conspiracy that the album she was considering was almost different. Perfect celebrity was also the working title for the album for a time, so I don’t really know where you’re getting the information that it was created last. I’m just explaining that the person whose original comment you replied to was referring to what Gaga said about perfect celebrity and how it almost reshaped the record. “Original mayhem” might be a bad descriptor but it doesn’t erase the fact that she wanted to reshape the album to fit PC, and then decided to integrate it into the running tracklist she already had, furthering the “mayhem” concept. We don’t know every single thing about the writing of the album so obviously there are going to be people who have their own ideas for how the record could have turned out. I'd call you certain things but I've already have warning points... #spreadkindness 💖 Edited Thursday at 03:02 AM by elegidadedios 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 15,001 Posted Thursday at 05:05 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:05 AM lets hope for chromatica i am a free woman. ○● Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw773 4,275 Posted Thursday at 06:45 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:45 AM It will sound like Requiem in parts I bet. I might need a hero to save me from breaking 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
palma 8,897 Posted Thursday at 08:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:00 AM 8 hours ago, elegidadedios said: Sister what's "og MAYHEM"... Let's not The MAYHEM released on March 6th 2025? I didn't mean it in a true LG5 is shelved! Justice for Frankensteined! way Is there some reason my LG7 isn't here? Has she died or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 46,049 Posted Thursday at 06:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:41 PM (edited) 17 hours ago, TheARTPOPball said: The neurological process is she said it in an interview on record that the songs she was wanting to make at the time of its creation were heavier. She literally said that. I don’t know why you and others want to pretend that’s pulled out of thin air when the source is Gaga herself. It doesn’t really matter to me that the term “original mayhem” might not be the best way to describe it but it’s not some far reached conspiracy that the album she was considering was almost different. Perfect celebrity was also the working title for the album for a time, so I don’t really know where you’re getting the information that it was created last. I’m just explaining that the person whose original comment you replied to was referring to what Gaga said about perfect celebrity and how it almost reshaped the record. “Original mayhem” might be a bad descriptor but it doesn’t erase the fact that she wanted to reshape the album to fit PC, and then decided to integrate it into the running tracklist she already had, furthering the “mayhem” concept. We don’t know every single thing about the writing of the album so obviously there are going to be people who have their own ideas for how the record could have turned out. But the theory people usually espouse (“the album was heavier and then she softened it”) is literally the opposite of everything she’s said about the process. During the Spotify press conference, Gaga literally said VIY was the first song written for the album. In the Zane Lowe interview, she describes having the urge to “change all the production (on the album)” to match the vibe of PC, which heavily implies it came later, the bulk of the album was done, and PC was the stylistic outlier, especially since we know VIY was the first song written for the album and the version she had been working on up until that point would have to be similar to the version we have now if the introduction of a grunge aesthetic would require it to be reworked. To me, the fan theory of “the OG MAYHEM was electrogrunge/industrial” feels like a classic case of fans hearing what they want to hear and finding a way to scapegoat someone else (like Michael) for Gaga not giving them they album they wanted. To an extent, I get why LMs do that with Joanne (there’s a fair amount of evidence of her working with a lot of different producers who weren’t on Joanne prior to the album release), but in this case the timeline of the process based on Gaga’s own words doesn’t support the theory at all, in fact it contradicts it lol Edited Thursday at 06:43 PM by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,328 Posted Thursday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:52 PM 3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: But the theory people usually espouse (“the album was heavier and then she softened it”) is literally the opposite of everything she’s said about the process. During the Spotify press conference, Gaga literally said VIY was the first song written for the album. In the Zane Lowe interview, she describes having the urge to “change all the production (on the album)” to match the vibe of PC, which heavily implies it came later, the bulk of the album was done, and PC was the stylistic outlier, especially since we know VIY was the first song written for the album and the version she had been working on up until that point would have to be similar to the version we have now if the introduction of a grunge aesthetic would require it to be reworked. To me, the fan theory of “the OG MAYHEM was electrogrunge/industrial” feels like a classic case of fans hearing what they want to hear and finding a way to scapegoat someone else (like Michael) for Gaga not giving them they album they wanted. To an extent, I get why LMs do that with Joanne (there’s a fair amount of evidence of her working with a lot of different producers who weren’t on Joanne prior to the album release), but in this case the timeline of the process based on Gaga’s own words doesn’t support the theory at all, in fact it contradicts it lol That explains a lot about the tracklist but I’m confused how the working title was “perfect celebrity” before it was mayhem, I think what happened and correct me if I’m wrong is she made the softer tracks, but was also making tracks like garden of Eden, lovedrug, abra, disease. In reality it’s really hard for me to pinpoint exactly how the album was made because none of the tracks actually fit together in the way that an album like born this way did. I do believe that there are probably at least a few of other tracks that would be considered sister tracks to disease, abra PC, that didn’t end up making the album. I understand my narrative may be wrong in the sense that the darker songs came first, because I haven’t watched all the mayhem interviews but what I have seen, she is quite vague in interviews about the album and answers a lot of the questions she was asked with very long indirect answers. But I will maintain my position that without the introduction to PC, the album would probably be different and leaned more into mainly disco tracks. But then it was stated disease is was made early so it really confuses me how she considered “reworking” the album around that song if the album already had tracks that would work with the song, at least in a vibe sense. I’m not trying to in bad faith argue with everyone but this is the most difficult album to understand where exactly her headspace was because it isn’t apparently obvious with the material we have to analyze vs albums like Joanne, and her explanations of the work she was doing also seem very vague and directionless, which I guess maybe is the reason it became “mayhem” but from a world building perspective, the narrative of the record is extremely hard to follow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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