NYT critics reveals why Beyoncé was not included in their Greatest Songwriters list

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It is very, and I really do mean this: very well known Beyonce doesn't do much writing. So if she is barely a writer how could she be one of the best writers? Only her stans would think otherwise.

The guy calling her a curator is absolutely right. And she really is an extraordinary curator.

[Junko Enoshima 4,585]

On 5/10/2026 at 4:15 AM, Leography said:

To me this discussion is almost as stale as "how can this song be good if it doesn't have millions of streams"

I get that it is different, and creativity should be aknowleged for sure, but I don't like a song because it has one or 15 writters, I like it for how it makes me feel. And if we take the exemple of AMERIICAN REQUIEM, that songs to me is one of the best in her discography. Saw the COWBOY CARTER TOUR four times, it made me cry every time. Not once I thought "oh no, this song has too many writters" lmao 
As a Beyoncé fan I know she's in fact more of a curator than a proper songwritter. Her talent definitively lies in her capacity of finding the right people and guide them to execute *HER* laser focused vision for her work. And I don't see why it shouldn't be valid, or why her "creativity and talent are questionnable". She's the mastermind behind her work, she knows what she wants to say, she knows what she wants us to see/hear. We have enough footage and testimonies from her collaborators to know as much. 

Girl nobody said her songs were ass we’re talking about how she can’t be considered a proper songwriter because she relies too much on samples and has a whole team for writing songs.

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There are MANY more artists I’d be asking this question about before Beyoncé.  

[SlowLoris 1,204]

Feeling obligated to explain why Beyonce isn't on your newspaper list feels so 2015 buzzfeed lib coded

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On 5/10/2026 at 1:41 PM, Ladle Ghoulash said:

But I agree that a lot of the minimizing is tired. She doesn’t have to be a songwriter per se or composer to be a strong musician.

then why they sell her as such? this is the whole point. they make her a musical genius, one of a kind, like modern Mozart, when in fact, she's not that far from Ava or Bebe.

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5 hours ago, Junko Enoshima said:

Girl nobody said her songs were ass we’re talking about how she can’t be considered a proper songwriter because she relies too much on samples and has a whole team for writing songs.

And where exactly in my post did I said that she was a bona fide songwritter?

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3 hours ago, SlowLoris said:

Feeling obligated to explain why Beyonce isn't on your newspaper list feels so 2015 buzzfeed lib coded

They know this Is the best way to generate buzz