Times when an artist's strength becomes their weakness

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was thinking KATY PERRY

2010s: quirky in a fun way... just look at those old mvs... the color brightness cotton candy of it all i was living... even last friday night was giving im not like other girls but in the best way possible 
2020s: too quirky... now it kinda comes off as weird/tryhard... ex: woman's world mv... guarantee u no one found it empowering

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Oh I am SEATED for this thread 

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Lady Gaga being extravaganza in ARTPOP era... People found her too much and too weird while on TFM era and BTW era being an over-the-top artist was surely something that worked for her.

[dynamite 65,607]

It's because she did it properly back then and hadn't yet fallen from grace. 

Tbh I think her MVs are actually fine. Surprisingly good considering everything... The problem is the music.

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Gagas vocals in a way, often times she choses to flex her vocals rather than to make a pleasant melody (Dope, Till it happens to you, Blade of grass, shallow).

Britney and her dancing to the degree where she basically never sang live, same with Madonna in certain cases.

Lana Del Rey and Taylor Swift with their storytelling to the point where they kinda ignore the power of gr8 production 

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Gaga's theatricality and dramatics incorporated into the mess that was enigma 

[River 123,995]

Ava and Bebe Netanyahu sampling methods, at first they were hits (undeserved imo), but then they became a pop stans joke.

 

 

[River 123,995]

Gaga's relationship with her fans, it started as a mastermind marketing plan, a deep connection on social media, she reposted, she replied, she was aware, then LM.COM was created and the connection was deeper.. but in the meantime the fans started to be toxic to her and she began to take one step back each time, until she totally moved away from this relationship.. she became an enigma, an old school mysterious artist, like old times.

Here and there she's throwing some bones, but it's not as deep as it was, and it honestly pretty sad.

We had something so special and we blew it.

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30 minutes ago, princedeeblebleble said:

Gagas vocals in a way, often times she choses to flex her vocals rather than to make a pleasant melody (Dope, Till it happens to you, Blade of grass, shallow).

Britney and her dancing to the degree where she basically never sang live, same with Madonna in certain cases.

Lana Del Rey and Taylor Swift with their storytelling to the point where they kinda ignore the power of gr8 production 

I know people complain about Gaga's "Dope voice" (and have done so for years and years), but I was kinda surprised seeing you mention Shallow. I fully admit maybe my ears need checking  and that WOAAAA-WOAAAA-AAAAA bridge is the flex of all flexes but somehow I always felt that everything was so smooth-sounding and pleasant (I'm including the solo MBT version), not the way some people describing her "dope voice" sounds at all? Could you explain? Just a question.  

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I predict beyonce's "mysterious" persona is starting to get old

the lack of content for her fans and expensive merch is getting tiresome

just dropping and dipping isn't as cool as it was with ST and Lemonade

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Nicki Minaj? She used to be called the queen of rap, but now she's failure. Starships, Super Bass, Pound The Alarm, etc. – I loved that era.

Katy Perry – she has strange behavior, but overall she used to sound better musically than she does today

Rihanna – the only one among the stars who was truly bop. Today, she doesn't even want to feel that fame.

Britney Spears – If her life had taken a different course, if she had been more conscious, even if her health had been better, we would have many songs today. Today, I truly feel sorry for her, that her life was destroyed in such a way...

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22 minutes ago, River said:

Gaga's relationship with her fans, it started as a mastermind marketing plan, a deep connection on social media, she reposted, she replied, she was aware, then LM.COM was created and the connection was deeper.. but in the meantime the fans started to be toxic to her and she began to take one step back each time, until she totally moved away from this relationship.. she became an enigma, an old school mysterious artist, like old times.

Here and there she's throwing some bones, but it's not as deep as it was, and it honestly pretty sad.

We had something so special and we blew it.

This I really agree with. She HAD to step back for her own health, it became terribly toxic towards her (the demands laid at her feet, the constant bullying she got) and ultimately wasn't healthy for some fans either... Maybe it had to do with the median age on certain sites but us LM's, as a collective, did blow it. It's never going to be the same but knowing she's happy and has her own life back is maybe better in a way? 

I was however way too happy to hear her scream "Put your Paws up" constantly instead of just "hands" during this tour. 

Edited 33 minutes ago by Apec