I will never forgive Gaga

[gagacabana 3,607]

6 hours ago, Flippy said:

I still have my OG Cleo and Deuce two pack and a bunch of original ghouls

Wouldn't you like to share a picture of them   I've been on a mission recently of restoring my Draculaura, only got her hair back (barely) so far

6 hours ago, Flippy said:

I never got into celebrity dolls, fortunately!

That's too funny indeed because idk how they even made it all the way to the far far away land I live in Brasil. Guess JB did was a big hit back in the day fr. But I only got one bc my older cousin was a hardcore belieber and I think our grandparents thought I'd like his doll too lol (he's currently with a broken leg and just the og pants and jacket lmao). As I was a kid who loved both dolls and playing with them, all of them got destroyed through the years  kinda like this:

[King Targaryen 436]

I will never forgive her for skipping the bridge of Perfect Celebrity on the Mayhem Tour. 

[gagacabana 3,607]

1 hour ago, bxr said:

Not unforgivable, but: GaGa v Gaga—I would suggest a Merriam-Webster Little Monster press conference to discuss / clarify the etymological trajectory / present state of practical utility

My interpretation of it is that GaGa was quite simply Queen' song incorporated, just a syllable on repeat. Then it transformed into a "real" sounding name. The funniest part is that the brazilian word for stuttering/stammering is gagueira, so a man stutterer is a gago and a woman stutterer is a gaga. So for us, Lady Gaga is really indeed Lady Stutterer 

[Ladle Ghoulash 41,178]

1 minute ago, gagacabana said:

My interpretation of it is that GaGa was quite simply Queen' song incorporated, just a syllable on repeat. Then it transformed into a "real" sounding name. The funniest part is that the brazilian word for stuttering/stammering is gagueira, so a man stutterer is a gago and a woman stutterer is a gaga. So for us, Lady Gaga is really indeed Lady Stutterer 

I think @bxr referring to the dispute in the fanbase about whether it’s stylized as Gaga or GaGa. Early in her career, she occasionally stylized it with two capital Gs, then started consistently writing it with just the first capitalized.

That being said, the Queen song as a reference point has always interested me because the song is simultaneously a love letter to pop music (which is very Lady Gaga), but the song also uses “Radio GAGA” as a pejorative (basically saying modern pop is nonsense and rubbish). So how does Gaga square the circle on reclaiming “Gaga” in that context? Is that part of the ethos of “pop music will never be lowbrow,” so she’s pre-emptily absorbing the criticism that she’s a “fad” and has “no substance?” 

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5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I think @bxr referring to the dispute in the fanbase about whether it’s stylized as Gaga or GaGa. Early in her career, she occasionally stylized it with two capital Gs, then started consistently writing it with just the first capitalized.

That being said, the Queen song as a reference point has always interested me because the song is simultaneously a love letter to pop music (which is very Lady Gaga), but the song also uses “Radio GAGA” as a pejorative (basically saying modern pop is nonsense and rubbish). So how does Gaga square the circle on reclaiming “Gaga” in that context? Is that part of the ethos of “pop music will never be lowbrow,” so she’s pre-emptily absorbing the criticism that she’s a “fad” and has “no substance?” 

Yes! Absolutely! And I find it so endearing that wherever Gaga goes, there she is carrying around a beloved band/song with her. Her GaGa/GAGA/Gaga/ARTPOP could mean anything

[Ladle Ghoulash 41,178]

5 minutes ago, gagacabana said:

Yes! Absolutely! And I find it so endearing that wherever Gaga goes, there she is carrying around a beloved band/song with her. Her GaGa/GAGA/Gaga/ARTPOP could mean anything

100%. Also kind of perfect encapsulation of how she manages to make her references her own because, in spite of Gaga being a Queen reference, she’s established such a strong image and identity as an artist that she’s transcended the reference and become her own pop cultural reference point (“one second I’m a Koons, then suddenly the Koons is me.”)

Edited yesterday at 03:06 PM by Ladle Ghoulash

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1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

100%. Also kind of perfect encapsulation of how she manages to make her references her own because, in spite of Gaga being a Queen reference, she’s established such a strong image and identity as an artist that she’s transcended the reference and become her own pop cultural reference point 

Oh Godga the once in an actual lifetime artist that you are... 

[Chromanne 2,377]

I will never forgive Gaga for:

1. Keeping Jewels N' Drugs in ARTPOP instead of Brooklyn Nights.

2. Scrapping the bridge of Babylon.

3. Using a cell phone to shoot a music video for Stupid Love.

4. Not making Vanish Into You as a single during its peak during Coachella.

5. 

 

[JoeCool 715]

Never forgive is harsh but her current ticket prices are a huge turnoff 

[Ziggy 13,227]

ill never forgive her for not flashing anderson cooper her big honkin donkey d!qck and instead giving a lovely, personal statement about sensationalism and the media.

[Ziggy 13,227]

3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

100%. Also kind of perfect encapsulation of how she manages to make her references her own because, in spite of Gaga being a Queen reference, she’s established such a strong image and identity as an artist that she’s transcended the reference and become her own pop cultural reference point (“one second I’m a Koons, then suddenly the Koons is me.”)

that's how we know she was high as balls in 2012 bc how did this not cross her mind when making ARTPOP

[Ladle Ghoulash 41,178]

2 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

that's how we know she was high as balls in 2012 bc how did this not cross her mind when making ARTPOP

I think this is what she was trying to do/say but whew was she high and pretty far up her own ass at that point lmao

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26 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

that's how we know she was high as balls in 2012 bc how did this not cross her mind when making ARTPOP

Koons as in Queen?  lmao she's such a special gorl 

[bxr 1,402]

8 hours ago, gagacabana said:

My interpretation of it is that GaGa was quite simply Queen' song incorporated, just a syllable on repeat. Then it transformed into a "real" sounding name. The funniest part is that the brazilian word for stuttering/stammering is gagueira, so a man stutterer is a gago and a woman stutterer is a gaga. So for us, Lady Gaga is really indeed Lady Stutterer 

8 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I think @bxr referring to the dispute in the fanbase about whether it’s stylized as Gaga or GaGa. Early in her career, she occasionally stylized it with two capital Gs, then started consistently writing it with just the first capitalized.

That being said, the Queen song as a reference point has always interested me because the song is simultaneously a love letter to pop music (which is very Lady Gaga), but the song also uses “Radio GAGA” as a pejorative (basically saying modern pop is nonsense and rubbish). So how does Gaga square the circle on reclaiming “Gaga” in that context? Is that part of the ethos of “pop music will never be lowbrow,” so she’s pre-emptily absorbing the criticism that she’s a “fad” and has “no substance?” 

8 hours ago, gagacabana said:

Yes! Absolutely! And I find it so endearing that wherever Gaga goes, there she is carrying around a beloved band/song with her. Her GaGa/GAGA/Gaga/ARTPOP could mean anything

8 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

100%. Also kind of perfect encapsulation of how she manages to make her references her own because, in spite of Gaga being a Queen reference, she’s established such a strong image and identity as an artist that she’s transcended the reference and become her own pop cultural reference point (“one second I’m a Koons, then suddenly the Koons is me.”)

10/10: No Notes—this dialogue … the living discourse of it all, you two 

The approach that the significance of her artistic identity or creative orientation shifts in accord with the stylization is, just wow … and GAGA, I hadn’t thought about, but the first time I remember that stylization feeling intentional, in that creative identification way, was the Alejandro video, with the GAGA / KLEIN / ALEJANDRO … and in context of the various iterations you all explore, that video in particular felt like a moment of dominion or capital nomination claimed

The other iteration / interpretation that springs to mind is music theory / notation … G, A are the first two notes of the G Major scale (A, G are the first and last notes of the A Minor scale) … I think she got the G, A, G, A music notation tattoo for Chromatica (?) … but that subplot association also felt like an element of the etymological identity

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5 minutes ago, bxr said:

Gonna think about this forever. We belong together and some stories have no end, indeed