Bruno Mars reposts Chris Brown and Usher’s tour

[Blackout19 14,945]

now you understand why i never liked bruno mars. his music is bad, too.

[Apec 177]

11 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

A man being disappointing. 

A shocking development. 

This. Sorry guys but patriarchy creates an environment where this is okay and won't even be seen as abnormal. Imagine how tired us women are. 

[princedeeblebleble 3,134]

[Apec 177]

11 hours ago, TheSine said:

Am I the only one who doesn't care that much? Not in a sense that "Who cares if people follow or support problematic people! You don't know them!" Because we all know what Chris Brown did, and celebrity influence is real. It's like... "oh, he reposted someone. Pretty sure that person is bad. Oh well, back to my life." It feels like it was posted specifically for people to get pissed about.

Male, probably? Or at least brainwashed.   

Bruno is a hot commodity again (mostly due to the success of two of his three collabs last year and ESPECIALLY because of DWAS' impact) and now he's giving free publicity to a wifebeater. If that doesn't at least make you shake your head...

If you don't care about women's wellbeing and how male perpetrators are given platforms time and time again, then don't answer in a public forum how you don't care. Us women don't care about your privileged apathy, insofar as these sorts of opinons ARE part of the problem. 

[Melbourne Monster 181]

The Insta story has been up for over 18 hours now, you think he’d take it down to try and save face. 

[LadyxGaGa 3,134]

yall lets just all agree to not stream DWAS anymore ok???

[Borislshere 53,502]

Bruno mars is literally the cranberry juice of the music industry. Trying to be cool with everyone and not standing for a thing. 

[TheSine 6,742]

8 hours ago, Apec said:

Male, probably? Or at least brainwashed.   

Bruno is a hot commodity again (mostly due to the success of two of his three collabs last year and ESPECIALLY because of DWAS' impact) and now he's giving free publicity to a wifebeater. If that doesn't at least make you shake your head...

If you don't care about women's wellbeing and how male perpetrators are given platforms time and time again, then don't answer in a public forum how you don't care. Us women don't care about your privileged apathy, insofar as these sorts of opinons ARE part of the problem. 

I think you're misinterpreting my post. I apologize as my phrasing wasn't the best. I recognize celebrity influence and how problematic it can be to continue giving people who've done terrible things such as Chris Brown a platform. Who people support matters in knowing where people stand.

However, what I’m pushing back on is how posts like this can turn into cycles that don’t really address the underlying issues. I’m not reacting immediately because I’d rather be thoughtful about it than jump straight into anger. If Bruno doesn't address this, that's on him. I'll continue to support people who align with my values. There’s only so much you can do about reposts and likes beyond acknowledging them and responding in ways that might actually encourage reflection.

EDIT: Late edit, but I feel the need to address this as well.

If this continues to focus on ad hominems rather than focusing on what I said, I no longer wish to engage with this conversation. Overall, I'm not saying that I don't care about the potential harm. Regulating my reaction about it isn't the same as minimizing or dismissing the issue. What is minimizing is if I said "It's not that serious." or dismissing it outright, which I didn't do. If you disagree with my approach, that's okay. You have every right to be angry, but I don't think it's fair to say that I don't care about women's wellbeing based on your assumptions.

Edited April 23 by TheSine
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[Apec 177]

On 4/23/2026 at 6:28 PM, TheSine said:

I think you're misinterpreting my post. I apologize as my phrasing wasn't the best. I recognize celebrity influence and how problematic it can be to continue giving people who've done terrible things such as Chris Brown a platform. Who people support matters in knowing where people stand.

However, what I’m pushing back on is how posts like this can turn into cycles that don’t really address the underlying issues. I’m not reacting immediately because I’d rather be thoughtful about it than jump straight into anger. If Bruno doesn't address this, that's on him. I'll continue to support people who align with my values. There’s only so much you can do about reposts and likes beyond acknowledging them and responding in ways that might actually encourage reflection.

EDIT: Late edit, but I feel the need to address this as well.

If this continues to focus on ad hominems rather than focusing on what I said, I no longer wish to engage with this conversation. Overall, I'm not saying that I don't care about the potential harm. Regulating my reaction about it isn't the same as minimizing or dismissing the issue. What is minimizing is if I said "It's not that serious." or dismissing it outright, which I didn't do. If you disagree with my approach, that's okay. You have every right to be angry, but I don't think it's fair to say that I don't care about women's wellbeing based on your assumptions.

So you don't wish to engage in this conversation before I even answered your first and only reply?   

I wasn't even angry (I have worse battles to fight than a forum post), like you seem to think everyone who was disappointed in Bruno is. "Those angry feminists, right? So painfully boring, why don't they just go SOLVE things?" - That's how your "However, what I’m pushing back on is how posts like this can turn into cycles that don’t really address the underlying issues."  among other quite puzzling sentences came across. 99.9% expressed disappointment, at the very least, in Bruno but the obvious woman who was tired of the typical "who cares?" post who tried to reply with a "Why post then?" was the one who had to be CONSTRUCTIVE. 

I wasn't even talking about celebrity culture specifically, supporting certain artists or not (okay...go support artists that align with your values) and though you apologized somewhat you were acting defensive/seemingly annoyed the whole time - I should've known a real conversation wasn't possible but gave your post the benefit of the doubt. I wrote paragraph after paragraph saying how you can of course feel however you want, I tried clearing up my position, thanking you for expanding on yours and even thanking you for your, err, "I apologize if" while still disagreeing with your ideas, especially those of what minimizing consists of and explaining why I disagreed in a gentle manner.

But that ETA is just throwing your toys out of the pram, which stops any actual dialogue in its tracks.  I hoped you were acting in good faith but text: deleted. I'll just add a tl;dr for men like you. Platfoming male perpetrators over female victims and having hordes of other men cheering them on like they didn't do anything happens in every layer of society - in politics and celebrity it's just more visible. Women don't have the privilege of loudly declaring their disinterest in male violence being ignored by other men because that's exactly how patriarchy functions. We don't have the privilege to shrug our shoulders. Anger and fury are sadly one of our only "tools" against patriarchy, but how would you know? 

[River 124,968]

1 hour ago, Apec said:

So you don't wish to engage in this conversation before I even answered your first and only reply?   

I wasn't even angry (I have worse battles to fight than a forum post), like you seem to think everyone who was disappointed in Bruno is. "Those angry feminists, right? So painfully boring, why don't they just go SOLVE things?" - That's how your "However, what I’m pushing back on is how posts like this can turn into cycles that don’t really address the underlying issues."  among other quite puzzling sentences came across. 99.9% expressed disappointment, at the very least, in Bruno but the obvious woman who was tired of the typical "who cares?" post who tried to reply with a "Why post then?" was the one who had to be CONSTRUCTIVE. 

I wasn't even talking about celebrity culture specifically, supporting certain artists or not (okay...go support artists that align with your values) and though you apologized somewhat you were acting defensive/seemingly annoyed the whole time - I should've known a real conversation wasn't possible but gave your post the benefit of the doubt. I wrote paragraph after paragraph saying how you can of course feel however you want, I tried clearing up my position, thanking you for expanding on yours and even thanking you for your, err, "I apologize if" while still disagreeing with your ideas, especially those of what minimizing consists of and explaining why I disagreed in a gentle manner.

But that ETA is just throwing your toys out of the pram, which stops any actual dialogue in its tracks.  I hoped you were acting in good faith but text: deleted. I'll just add a tl;dr for men like you. Platfoming male perpetrators over female victims and having hordes of other men cheering them on like they didn't do anything happens in every layer of society - in politics and celebrity it's just more visible. Women don't have the privilege of loudly declaring their disinterest in male violence being ignored by other men because that's exactly how patriarchy functions. We don't have the privilege to shrug our shoulders. Anger and fury are sadly one of our only "tools" against patriarchy, but how would you know? 

So many words and personal attacks but you didn’t even understand what he said lol

All you said is irrelevant to his post.

He came from a good faith and you keep on attacking him.. chill.

You’re giving TERF vibes

[Apec 177]

15 hours ago, River said:

So many words and personal attacks but you didn’t even understand what he said lol

All you said is irrelevant to his post.

He came from a good faith and you keep on attacking him.. chill.

You’re giving TERF vibes

Of course I understood what he said. Since his ETA where he didn't want to "engage" - we hadn't even exchanged words yet, I had only replied - all of a sudden, before I had the chance to reply (timezones and chronic illness/pain make me not be available 24/7) I wasn't going to speak as amicably as I was doing right before he edited his piece.  I was going to say what was on my mind.

Tone tells quite a lot about what people think, especially if you read beyond weak reasoning but look at what emotion is attached to the message. I wasn't "attacking" him personally, nor was I calling him names. I was repeating what he said in the light of women's problems and disagreeing with how harmless his take was. After his downright display of a superiority complex in that ETA I deleted my gentle disagreement. Male apathy sustains patriarchy, that was the bulk of my message from the first second onwards. To call me a TERF out of nowhere - now that's an example of a true ad homimem.

His post in reply to mine was a repudiation of the worth of women and men being angry at the state of things. How it's all shrug-worthy. Yet loud apathy hurts women (and men), which again, was my message the entire time. Is being passionate about female rights Terfy now? Tell that to those lovely people in this thread who don't even want to give Bruno a dime anymore!

Did you call me a TERF because I talked about women who are male-identified? That's common language to denote women who don't believe/are socialized to believe men can do no wrong. Maybe you misunderstood? Your insult could not be more wrong and random, yikes.

Edited April 25 by Apec

[Bronco 21,429]

7 minutes ago, Apec said:

His post in reply to mine was a repudiation of the worth of women and men being angry at the state of things. How it's all shrug-worthy. Yet loud apathy hurts women (and men), which again, was my message the entire time. Is being passionate about female rights Terfy now? Tell that to those lovely people in this thread who don't even want to give Bruno a dime anymore!

Give us specific quotations where they specifically repudiate the worth of women? 

All they said was we should focus our energies to maximise their impact. 
Because anyone who's done time as an activist knows that complaining about someone reposting a social media story is not really activism. It's egotism. 

It's not apathy to not engage with a social media post you dislike. 
It's not activism to rage against it. It's just a sign you've fallen for what the opposition love to do - distract with low hanging fruit. 

If you truly care about women's rights like you say, go protest the venues hosting the tour. That'd be far more worthwhile and would have a tangiable and useful end goal of deplatforming a woman-beater and a diddy fiddler. 

[River 124,968]

26 minutes ago, Apec said:

Of course I understood what he said. Since his ETA where he didn't want to "engage" - we hadn't even exchanged words yet, I had only replied - all of a sudden, before I had the chance to reply (timezones and chronic illness/pain make me not be available 24/7) I wasn't going to speak as amicably as I was doing right before he edited his piece.  I was going to say what was on my mind.

Tone tells quite a lot about what people think, especially if you read beyond weak reasoning but look at what emotion is attached to the message. I wasn't "attacking" him personally, nor was I calling him names. I was repeating what he said in the light of women's problems and disagreeing with how harmless his take was. After his downright display of a superiority complex in that ETA I deleted my gentle disagreement. Male apathy sustains patriarchy, that was the bulk of my message from the first second onwards. To call me a TERF out of nowhere - now that's an example of a true ad homimem.

His post in reply to mine was a repudiation of the worth of women and men being angry at the state of things. How it's all shrug-worthy. Yet loud apathy hurts women (and men), which again, was my message the entire time. Is being passionate about female rights Terfy now? Tell that to those lovely people in this thread who don't even want to give Bruno a dime anymore!

Did you call me a TERF because I talked about women who are male-identified? That's common language to denote women who don't believe/are socialized to believe men can do no wrong. Maybe you misunderstood? Your insult could not be more wrong and random, yikes.

Nope, u didn’t understand what he said, you keep on attacking the wrong people.

Men can do wrong, like women, and u just did wrong.

It’s not too late to apologize to TheSine.

[Ladle Ghoulash 45,051]

42 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Give us specific quotations where they specifically repudiate the worth of women? 

All they said was we should focus our energies to maximise their impact. 
Because anyone who's done time as an activist knows that complaining about someone reposting a social media story is not really activism. It's egotism. 

It's not apathy to not engage with a social media post you dislike. 
It's not activism to rage against it. It's just a sign you've fallen for what the opposition love to do - distract with low hanging fruit. 

If you truly care about women's rights like you say, go protest the venues hosting the tour. That'd be far more worthwhile and would have a tangiable and useful end goal of deplatforming a woman-beater and a diddy fiddler. 

“Social media outrage isn’t activism and the amount of energy people give it is exhausting.”

”So basically you’re a chauvinist pig who thinks all women should eat sh*t and die. Noted.”

Edited April 25 by Ladle Ghoulash

[Apec 177]

6 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Give us specific quotations where they specifically repudiate the worth of women? 

All they said was we should focus our energies to maximise their impact. 
Because anyone who's done time as an activist knows that complaining about someone reposting a social media story is not really activism. It's egotism. 

It's not apathy to not engage with a social media post you dislike. 
It's not activism to rage against it. It's just a sign you've fallen for what the opposition love to do - distract with low hanging fruit. 

If you truly care about women's rights like you say, go protest the venues hosting the tour. That'd be far more worthwhile and would have a tangiable and useful end goal of deplatforming a woman-beater and a diddy fiddler. 

I didn't say "the worth of women", I said a "a repudiation of the worth of women and men being angry at the state of things. How it's all shrug-worthy." I also made clear that I wasn't talking about celebrity culture - there it's just more visible. Men cheering on known perpetrators in victims' faces happens in every layer of society. Feel like shrugging, whatever,   but making a post about your apathy is exactly what fuels patriarchy. If you don't want to engage, don't. That's entirely different!  

So: Not wanting to engage isn't anti-feminist. It's shouting your apathy loud and clear, asking if there are others who feel the same, hinting in the same breath that it was posted to make people angry. My message was and is: Society only needs a tiny percentage of monsters and a whole lot of open apathy to sustain patriarchy. Not just surrounding celebrities. Most women however don't have the privilege to not be angry, especially if it's about cases closer to home than the rich and famous. If we weren't furious, things wouldn't change and they already barely do. In the US you already lost your federal right to abortion, in some states a r***d 12 year-old can't even get one. My heart broke, though with Trump's first Presidential win it wasn't a surprise - it was a Republican plan that had been in motion for at least 40 years.

I have marched for women's rights (on many different subjects) in my country (Not the USA) since I was 9. This was my choice - my parents thought I was kidding at first. Thankfully for me they are both feminists as well but didn't bombard me with it, it's because of what I read about our world that I made my choice. But they accompanied me for safety.

Because of a medical mistake at age 19 I became chronically ill with unbearable chronic nerve pain and about 6 years later I became bedridden. I'm 35 and still in the same condition. I do what I can, writing columns for feminist magazines sometimes, I've also written columns for general local papers and help online in the organization of feminist and some queer-allied protests. I do what I can here and there but am sadly VERY restricted.