Teletubby 158,537 Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM The Strokes closed out their second weekend Coachella set with a provocative political message, using their platform to remind the world of the continued devastation in Gaza. For their final song, the 2016 track ‘Oblivius’, which they haven’t played live since the year it was released. The slideshow behind the band turned serious, as it included political figures like Omar Torrijos, Jacobo Árbenz and Jaime Roldós Aguilera, all described as leaders allegedly overthrown by the CIA. The Strokes also included an image of Martin Luther King Jr, with the statement, “US Govt found guilty of his murder in civil trial.” Footage online depicted the use of signage that read, “Black Lives Matter. “ The Strokes used the final moments to provide a shockingly realistic recreation of air missile strikes in Gaza. “Over 30 universities destroyed in Iran. Last University standing in Gaza,” the gigantic screen behind them read, before it was engulfed in digital flames in a creative reimagining of the destruction that continues to persist in Palestine. x No One Cares About You 1 9 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevthepaparazzo 2,044 Posted yesterday at 09:45 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:45 AM ended racism Anything goes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 19,922 Posted yesterday at 09:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:48 AM Ngl I hope it made the white rich kids uncomfortable. But by that point they'd be to coked out to even see 1ft in front of them The gays know how to party 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 12,973 Posted yesterday at 10:08 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:08 AM I'm so sorry, Mr. Strokes; I was not familiar with your game. Lemme go stream At the Door a few times This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 123,803 Posted yesterday at 10:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:17 AM Not mentioning the West Bank and Lebanon, after all this time, is just losing the power of these statements to me.. it's kind of ignorant at this point.. Gaza got it's fair share of support, there are other victims who needs this global support as well. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 29,862 Posted yesterday at 11:21 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:21 AM 1 hour ago, River said: Not mentioning the West Bank and Lebanon, after all this time, is just losing the power of these statements to me.. it's kind of ignorant at this point.. Gaza got it's fair share of support, there are other victims who needs this global support as well. Let's not be "all or nothing" people 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 169,684 Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM Literally every artist should be doing the same tbh Whimsical bitch 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 123,803 Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:35 AM 7 minutes ago, Lucas said: Let's not be "all or nothing" people It’s not what i meant, the west bank is as important as Gaza and an important and crucial part of the freedom for Palestine, but it kept being ignored while in the meantime Israel is having a free membership card there, stealing more lands and settlers are doing more terror attacks in the villages from killing people to burning homes.. the awareness should become bigger than just Gaza. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 40,596 Posted yesterday at 11:37 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:37 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, River said: Not mentioning the West Bank and Lebanon, after all this time, is just losing the power of these statements to me.. it's kind of ignorant at this point.. Gaza got it's fair share of support, there are other victims who needs this global support as well. 16 minutes ago, Lucas said: Let's not be "all or nothing" people I get what you mean abt “all or nothing” (and I agree that Casablancas expressing support for Gaza is a good thing), but Israeli apartheid and expansionism in Gaza is equally tied to the settlement and occupation in the West Bank as much as it’s tied to the attempts to ethnically cleanse southern Lebanon. It’s not that Casablancas is wrong for only mentioning Gaza, it’s just kind of short sighted. Footnote: it is genuinely shocking to me how little attention the West Bank gets relative to Gaza. They’ve literally had roaming lynch mobs flanked by the IDF terrorizing Palestinians there for over half a century and it’s still not a particularly high salience issue. Edited yesterday at 11:38 AM by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 18,409 Posted yesterday at 11:45 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:45 AM They sounded glorious. Still have it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 169,684 Posted yesterday at 11:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:59 AM 18 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I get what you mean abt “all or nothing” (and I agree that Casablancas expressing support for Gaza is a good thing), but Israeli apartheid and expansionism in Gaza is equally tied to the settlement and occupation in the West Bank as much as it’s tied to the attempts to ethnically cleanse southern Lebanon. It’s not that Casablancas is wrong for only mentioning Gaza, it’s just kind of short sighted. Footnote: it is genuinely shocking to me how little attention the West Bank gets relative to Gaza. They’ve literally had roaming lynch mobs flanked by the IDF terrorizing Palestinians there for over half a century and it’s still not a particularly high salience issue. They probably only mentioned Gaza because it's the one that got/gets the most attention. I'm sure there's some theory psychology where it's easier to mention one front than many (even if they are all connected). "Stop the war in Gaza!" "Yeah!" "And West Bank!" "Y-yeah!" "And Lebanon!" "...yeah!" "And Iran!" "....um" "And Syria!" "Jesus Christ..." "And Ukraine!" "Isn't that...what?" "And (anticipating) Cuba!" "O-ok, girl" There MUST be a theory with a name about this Whimsical bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 169,684 Posted yesterday at 12:05 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:05 PM 6 minutes ago, PartySick said: They probably only mentioned Gaza because it's the one that got/gets the most attention. I'm sure there's some theory psychology where it's easier to mention one front than many (even if they are all connected). "Stop the war in Gaza!" "Yeah!" "And West Bank!" "Y-yeah!" "And Lebanon!" "...yeah!" "And Iran!" "....um" "And Syria!" "Jesus Christ..." "And Ukraine!" "Isn't that...what?" "And (anticipating) Cuba!" "O-ok, girl" There MUST be a theory with a name about this Ok, I asked Gemini (my new bestie for learning things like this) 1. Compassion/Empathy Fatigue. This is perhaps the most common term for this phenomenon. Compassion fatigue occurs when people are exposed to a high number of traumatic events, crises, or causes that require emotional energy. Because human empathy is a finite resource, constantly being asked to care intensely about multiple distinct, massive global conflicts eventually leads to emotional exhaustion. 2. Psychic Numbing. Coined by psychologist Paul Slovic, Psychic Numbing is the phenomenon where as the scale of a tragedy increases, our empathy actually decreases. A related concept is Compassion Fade. Slovic's research shows that human beings are wired to care deeply about a single, identifiable victim or a singular, focused crisis. When you start adding more victims, or in this case, more geopolitical fronts (West Bank, Lebanon, Iran, Syria), the brain becomes overwhelmed by the sheer scale of the suffering, causing individuals to emotionally detach rather than care more. 3. The Dilution Effect. In cognitive psychology and persuasion, the dilution effect occurs when non-diagnostic or weaker information is added to strong, diagnostic information, causing the overall impact of the message to weaken. 4. Cognitive Overload. From an information-processing standpoint, humans can only hold so much information in their working memory at once. Geopolitical conflicts are incredibly complex. Protesting one requires a certain level of understanding; protesting six requires a mastery of global socio-political dynamics that most people don't have on standby. Take your pick as to why it feels more natural to only mention Gaza in conjunction with the fact that Gaza got more headlines (including an entire presidential election). This also probably relates to that one obscure saying "one death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic". We just can't handle things at such a scale. Whimsical bitch 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 40,596 Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM 1 hour ago, PartySick said: They probably only mentioned Gaza because it's the one that got/gets the most attention. I'm sure there's some theory psychology where it's easier to mention one front than many (even if they are all connected). "Stop the war in Gaza!" "Yeah!" "And West Bank!" "Y-yeah!" "And Lebanon!" "...yeah!" "And Iran!" "....um" "And Syria!" "Jesus Christ..." "And Ukraine!" "Isn't that...what?" "And (anticipating) Cuba!" "O-ok, girl" There MUST be a theory with a name about this Idk, I think “Free Palestine, stop the genocide in Gaza and end the occupation of the West Bank” is a clean closed loop lol We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 19,922 Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Idk, I think “Free Palestine, stop the genocide in Gaza and end the occupation of the West Bank” is a clean closed loop lol It is. But thats to the politically aware. Which sadly, is a minority. The gays know how to party 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 40,596 Posted yesterday at 01:26 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:26 PM 3 minutes ago, Bronco said: It is. But thats to the politically aware. Which sadly, is a minority. I get the empathy fatigue that @PartySick is talking about and also the general lack of awareness that you’re talking about, but I just find it frustrating because they are fundamentally the same project. To care about Gaza, imo, necessitates caring about the ethnic cleansing project and lack of Palestinian agency on both fronts. I know I’m soapboxing a little and I’m not diminishing The Strokes using their platform to elevate Gaza, it is just, again, frustrating to see how, even at peak salience for Israel/Palestine, there are key dimensions that are just not being talked about enough and critical dots that are not being connected. (Preaching to the choir, I know hahah) We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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