xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: also love that you think *I’m* arguing when I just lightly ribbed you on softening your position about her as a performer and then you bristled, got defensive, doubled down, condescended etc. TL;DR: I misinterpreted every single one of your comments so it suits my narrative and now I’m accusing you of being defensive etc. as last resort personality attacks. 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: It was a nothing comment (which I still maintain is accurate) and you started ranting about narrow arguments that I never made about Addison because you seem to insist on talking past people on here lol TL;DR: While you are the one who has been continuously complaining about your comments being misunderstood or misinterpreted, suddenly I’m the one who’s complaining about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: enuine question: when you made a vague comment about Addison’s detractors being people who would’ve hated Britney, do you think it’s more reasonable to expect that: A.) Detractors would interpret the comparison as an individual and respond on that basis (given that they’re the ones whose opinions you’re trying to characterize) or B.) Ask you how you interpret the similarities between the two? I’ll give you a hint: the answer isn’t B. No, I completely get what you mean. My comment was exactly interpreted like that by MULTIPLE people, which is why I made too many comments to count below that post explaining myself, and I’m still doing it here, explaining what I meant in-depth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: But… you were the one who brought up the talks about strawman arguments two minutes ago Contradiction, much? Extrapolating based on things you’ve said isn’t a strawman argument lmao. However, assuming the stance of Addison detractors relative to Britney based on vague and unqualified criterion to knock it down real quick is, indeed, a strawman argument. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, xxxdreams said: No, I completely get what you mean. My comment was exactly interpreted like that by MULTIPLE people, which is why I made too many comments to count below that post explaining myself, and I’m still doing it here, explaining what I meant in-depth. But do you also get that making that comparison while basically framing it in a way where the comparison is only relevant insofar as you define it is not a particularly good faith way of engaging with others? That’s the reason why people didn’t and haven’t taken the comparison well lol We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: Extrapolating based on things you’ve said isn’t a strawman argument lmao. What about when the other person is adamant on continuously explaining their view, showing how your extrapolation is actually a misinterpretation and is wrong, yet you keep extrapolating it like that, essentially choosing which parts of their dialogue you want to take seriously? 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: However, assuming the stance of Addison detractors relative to Britney based on vague and unqualified criterion to knock it down real quick is, indeed, a strawman argument. If you mean that about my initial one-sentence comment below that post, that actually was just a semi-serious pop forum comment I made, which was misinterpreted by multiple people, I felt the need to explain it, and I feel like I did that clearly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: But do you also get that making that comparison while basically framing it in a way where the comparison is only relevant insofar as you define it is not a particularly good faith way of engaging with others? That’s the reason why people didn’t and haven’t taken the comparison well lol Well, yes, but the thing is I really did try to explain myself under that comment and defend my position, which was not to compare their talent levels or artistry, but to draw a parallel between their criticisms and Addison’s prominent imagery based on Britney’s artistry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 @Ladle Ghoulash I'm gonna be AFK so.. I'll probably respond later Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, xxxdreams said: What about when the other person is adamant on continuously explaining their view, showing how your extrapolation is actually a misinterpretation and is wrong, yet you keep extrapolating it like that, essentially choosing which parts of their dialogue you want to take seriously? If you mean that about my initial one-sentence comment below that post, that actually was just a semi-serious pop forum comment I made, which was misinterpreted by multiple people, I felt the need to explain it, and I feel like I did that clearly. I don’t really think the extrapolation is a misinterpretation because I think you and I just disagree about where the bar is and how high the bar goes for Addison. You see her as having way more potential than I do, which is part of the reason why I feel praising the performance where it is is lowering the bar (because I don’t see her getting much better than this). I understand your points (honestly, I do), but I also think that the tone of the conversation became kind of defensive and more of a series of essays as opposed to a discussion. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: Well, yes, but the thing is I really did try to explain myself under that comment and defend my position, which was not to compare their talent levels or artistry, but to draw a parallel between their criticisms and Addison’s prominent imagery based on Britney’s artistry. But the point that I’m making is: I think with each reinterpretation of the comparison, you interpreted it as an attack on your POV, when it was really just different people sizing up the artists against each other in different ways. I just feel like the tone of this whole exchange has been you feeling like people are trying to maliciously misunderstand you when people just don’t necessarily agree with you. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSine 6,911 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Right now I'm on Ladle's side. Should we bid who wins? Jokes aside, you two best behave. 💛 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, TheSine said: Right now I'm on Ladle's side. Should we bid who wins? Jokes aside, you two best behave. I mean, idk about Miz @xxxdreams, but I’m basically done here. No hard feelings. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,129 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, TheSine said: Right now I'm on Ladle's side. Should we bid who wins? Jokes aside, you two best behave. Can we have one of those X vs Y threads to vote? The gays know how to party 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,115 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, Bronco said: Can we have one of those X vs Y threads to vote? Are you #TEAMLADLE? or Are you #TEAMXXXDREAMS? We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamartia 3,029 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 This is the most emotion Addison has ever been able to inspire in an audience "I lied. I lied!" (Germanotta, 2025) 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSine 6,911 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 35 minutes ago, Bronco said: Can we have one of those X vs Y threads to vote? I was actually going to do that, buuuut I don't want to get hit on the head with a hammer so I'll let the universe decide. 💛 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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