popkulture 507 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 People are generally really sexist towards Madonna expressing her sexuality for her age, this discourse had popped up more with her anticipated new album and the rumors of her "scandalous" new video. However, Peaches, who is nearly 60, just came out with a raunchy album and is famous for her explicit lyrics and performances. It's interesting to see how Peaches is celebrated by the queer community with her vulgarness being embraced, and yet Madonna gets criticized and yet she's nowhere near as "raunchy" or explicit as Peaches. To be clear: I'm both a Madonna AND a Peaches fan. It's fasciniating to me how one is celebrated and the other is condemned, yet they share a similar age bracket. Perhaps it's because Peaches remains an underground artist while Madonna is a global superstar. Still, curious to hear thoughts. So, how do you feel about Peaches vs Madonna when it comes to expressing sexuality in your later years? Why is one more accepted than the other? Discuss. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 19,925 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, popkulture said: It's fasciniating to me how one is celebrated and the other is condemned, yet they share a similar age bracket. Perhaps it's because Peaches remains an underground artist while Madonna is a global superstar. Definitely a matter of exposure, like you say. One is celebrated by a small niche of people, because her music never reached a wider audience, because it's mid at best (sorry) The other is heavily scrutinized, because she caught the attention of the entire world, because her music was accessible & boundary-pushing at the same time Edited March 16 by NUTELLA Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,168 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think you've answered your own question: Madonna is much more global than Peaches. I doubt anyone who knows and enjoys Peaches would be Madonna detractors, so I'm not sure there's any double standard to discuss here. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louvre 4,371 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I mean, I think generally the queer community is not the problem when it comes to ageism against madonna. Anyone in the community shaming madonna is probably a low vibrational gay who doesn't have enough swag to know who peaches is. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 People love to hate Madonna because it gives them a sense of power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 77,388 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 A poor person saying "all of you are peasants" is different than a rich person saying the same thing. I feel like that is how I view this situation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 41,377 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Peaches as in LovelyPeaches? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 29,652 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 It's just that people love to hate on Madonna, particularly on this forum 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo 4,374 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 24 minutes ago, LateToCult said: Peaches as in LovelyPeaches? No. Edited March 16 by Nemo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 15,261 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Being an indie artist will always cause you to be treated differently. Underground and raunchy acts like Peaches are appreciated by a niche audience at any age. Most of the world isn't aware she exists, her biggest moment of exposure was having a blink and you miss it song feature in Mean Girls that most people barely noticed as it was so subtle. If she were much more famous, she'd absolutely be criticised in the same manner as Madonna. It's one of the freedoms and plus points of being an indie act. Being underground is one of the few spaces mostly free of sexism and ageism. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance13 1,214 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 23 hours ago, elsamars said: People love to hate Madonna because it gives them a sense of power. I never really thought of it this way, but I agree with it 100%. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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