River 127,482 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 15 minutes ago, NotoriousEden said: Idk why fans on here keep pedaling this narrative around. Idt there’s a manager in existence that has the ability to limit unreleased content. Labels are the ones that own the music unless he was some investor in the deal… which we have her contracts and he does not in-fact own her music he was an investor, along with Akon, it's all in front of your eyes, everything from TF to ARTPOP has been treated with very limited power from Gaga and Interscope. What do u think that they didn't want to make the 10th anniversary of BTW big with a lot of music from the vault? every ongoing or in progress project has been cease to exist after he left. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,140 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, LadyxGaGa said: ngl i always thought masters were like guarded and well kept so im surprised they are willing to give it even at a price it would seem to be the last thing anyone would wanna sell and it wouldn’t go for like that little i figured the fame and the fame monster alone was 50 mill There’s not a chance in hell they could do this, masters are sacred because whoever owns them has the power to determine when and where they are used and also how much money they charge for them. In pop unless you’re fully independent like someone such as Raye, you will not own most of your masters. I made a post in another thread about this, I estimated Gaga owns 40% of her masters which would be extremely high but that only equates to owning an average of 6% per song she makes and that’s IF she is credited as at least 50% songwriter, 50% producer and at least 10% musician (instrumentalist/instrument player) on her songs. Which post ARTPOP with the exception of Mayhem isn’t the case anymore. LUCKILY though TF and TFM are her most successful albums and she has the most stake in them because the songs are primarily made by herself and 1 other person entirely (RedOne or Space Cowboy, Matt Kb (Cherry Cherry Boom Boom) Fernando Garibay and Teddy Riley). Funnily enough I actually worked out RedOne technically owns most of the songs they made together MORE than Gaga because of his involvement in instrumentation, writing and producing. On average Gaga makes 1.7$ per 100 sales per song from TF/TFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,140 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, River said: he was an investor, along with Akon, it's all in front of your eyes, everything from TF to ARTPOP has been treated with very limited power from Gaga and Interscope. What do u think that they didn't want to make the 10th anniversary of BTW big with a lot of music from the vault? every ongoing or in progress project has been cease to exist after he left. I‘m sure when the legal documents leaked from that firm hack that came out, her original contract was DIABOLICAL and she didn’t get the upper hand until after Joanne? Edited February 16 by gagzus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 3,220 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, gagzus said: There’s not a chance in hell they could do this, masters are sacred because whoever owns them has the power to determine when and where they are used and also how much money they charge for them. In pop unless you’re fully independent like someone such as Raye, you will not own most of your masters. I made a post in another thread about this, I estimated Gaga owns 40% of her masters which would be extremely high but that only equates to owning an average of 6% per song she makes and that’s IF she is credited as at least 50% songwriter, 50% producer and at least 10% musician (instrumentalist/instrument player) on her songs. Which post ARTPOP with the exception of Mayhem isn’t the case anymore. LUCKILY though TF and TFM are her most successful albums and she has the most stake in them because the songs are primarily made by herself and 1 other person entirely (RedOne or Space Cowboy, Matt Kb (Cherry Cherry Boom Boom) Fernando Garibay and Teddy Riley). Funnily enough I actually worked out RedOne technically owns most of the songs they made together MORE than Gaga because of his involvement in instrumentation, writing and producing. On average Gaga makes 1.7$ per 100 sales per song from TF/TFM i didn’t realize he was so integral to all her early works i mean i knew he was there from the beginning but thats alot of percentage for a producer but maybe thats normal i rly hope michael doesn’t gift her back her masters tho that would be so neat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,105 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, gagzus said: Funnily enough I actually worked out RedOne technically owns most of the songs they made together MORE than Gaga because of his involvement in instrumentation, writing and producing. On average Gaga makes 1.7$ per 100 sales per song from TF/TFM Nolan Feeney vindicated We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlittlemonster 2,501 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I don't get why some LMs are so negative and toxic and always twist a good thing into something bad. This would be fantastic and super fair for Gaga to get what is rightfully hers and the result of so much hard work. This would be the cutest wedding gift and it would show Gaga how much he admires and respects her craft and artistry. However, I find it very odd that The Fame + The Fame Monster + Born This Way + ARTPOP would only be worth $50M? These are some of the biggest albums this century, I think they would be worth more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pucihendzap 441 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, LG2008 said: I never really liked Michael lol Omg ban him 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,140 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, LadyxGaGa said: i didn’t realize he was so integral to all her early works i mean i knew he was there from the beginning but thats alot of percentage for a producer but maybe thats normal i rly hope michael doesn’t gift her back her masters tho that would be so neat It’s pretty abnormal tbf because usually producers do just that; produce a record but Nadir (RedOne) is credited in ALL the instrumentation (keyboards, synths, bass, guitars etc) on all their songs as well as a songwriter and in some cases an engineer too. This is why she was treated like a money making machine back in the day and people would jump at the chance to work with her on music because she was handing out credits left and right for no reason. RedOne even said he didn’t deserve his writing credits on JD or BR because he simply made melodic and phonetic suggestions such as the rah rah part on bad romance and she gave him a credit. This is why on Mayhem her name appears first on both singer, songwriter AND producer credits because it means she has a higher percentage of the profits. Edited February 16 by gagzus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takox 643 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 How not to be in love with this man See the world with me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,140 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Nolan Feeney vindicated It’s true, based on a percentage split I worked out he owns 7% of Bad Romance but she only owns 6%, he would be even with her if she didn’t give him a writing credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, BrandyFinest said: Yeah he's gonna be a topic, but whys its gotta be only positive opinions? I think its fine to not care about the copy and paste finance bro that Gaga is with. Again, I said, "It's not about praising him, it's about the weird, parasocial comments that I see all the time about him." If you don't care about him, that's fine, but I legitimately don't see a reason why people dislike him so much. It also becomes problematic when people start accusing him of being manipulative and abusive because they don't like how Gaga is in love with him. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinnitus15 51,886 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Tbh the deal seems a bit low for her biggest albums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Tinnitus15 said: Tbh the deal seems a bit low for her biggest albums Methinks it's too high - she's been a flop since 2013 and doesn't have any cultural impact whatsoever in regions like Azerbaijan Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlittlemonster 2,501 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, gagzus said: It’s pretty abnormal tbf because usually producers do just that; produce a record but Nadir (RedOne) is credited in ALL the instrumentation (keyboards, synths, bass, guitars etc) on all their songs as well as a songwriter and in some cases an engineer too. This is why she was treated like a money making machine back in the day and people would jump at the chance to work with her on music because she was handing out credits left and right for no reason. RedOne even said he didn’t deserve his writing credits on JD or BR because he simply made melodic and phonetic suggestions such as the rah rah part on bad romance and she gave him a credit. This is why on Mayhem her name appears first on both singer, songwriter AND producer credits because it means she has a higher percentage of the profits. This is very true, however, Gaga was always generous in giving credit to people who contributed very little RedOne admitted that Gaga wrote Bad Romance essentially by herself (which is a mind-blowing achievement). But she still chose to give RedOne songwriting credits as he was in the room with her and he gave the idea of singing the oohhhohhh in the chorus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,140 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, tlittlemonster said: This is very true, however, Gaga was always generous in giving credit to people who contributed very little RedOne admitted that Gaga wrote Bad Romance essentially by herself (which is a mind-blowing achievement). But she still chose to give RedOne songwriting credits as he was in the room with her and he gave the idea of singing the oohhhohhh in the chorus Oh yeah and because of that he has a higher percentage split of the money the song makes by literally a percent, so because of that he probably makes more money off it than Gaga does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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