Blackout19 13,641 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, DESTROY UR DISEASE said: well good for you I suppose i am a free woman. ○● 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 41,175 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 48 minutes ago, BadKid58 said: I feel like fans who are calling Joanne her disingenuous era don't really know the artist they are stanning. It is enough to go to her recent My Life In 10 Songs interview, specifically the part where she's talking about Beck, for Joanne to make perfect sense. Good for Chappell, I hope we get another "Joanne" era, and honestly something that's even more left-field, from Gaga. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 18,121 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, NemoMyName said: from pink pony to pink hat Pink poney hat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 3,597 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, LateToCult said: Not she’s gearing up for her disingenuous flop era I couldn't stand it - I just knew it was fake. Maybe real for Gaga at the time but definitely felt like the biggest costume for an album/era that was supposed to be vulnerable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKid58 387 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 32 minutes ago, LateToCult said: No worries, I didn't want to quote you directly in case you've weren't serious Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Goo Goo 4,076 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, BadKid58 said: I feel like fans who are calling Joanne her disingenuous era don't really know the artist they are stanning. It is enough to go to her recent My Life In 10 Songs interview, specifically the part where she's talking about Beck, for Joanne to make perfect sense. Good for Chappell, I hope we get another "Joanne" era, and honestly something that's even more left-field, from Gaga. She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part. Lady Gaga doesn't owe us anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 10,897 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said: She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part. The “don’t be maudlin” quote from her doc really nailed how I felt about this era. But kudos to her for even allowing that moment to be included. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKid58 387 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said: She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part. You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think someone needs to have personally known a relative to feel the profound impact their death had on their family. I barely knew my father, and I still mourn him to this day. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Goo Goo 4,076 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 24 minutes ago, BadKid58 said: You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think someone needs to have personally known a relative to feel the profound impact their death had on their family. I barely knew my father, and I still mourn him to this day. Your actual birth father ≠ an aunt who died 15 years before you were even thought of Lady Gaga doesn't owe us anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 53,157 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said: She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. this is so ignorant, the loss of joanne was an incredibly traumatic time for her family that the pain was felt in the next generation she even has a poem she wrote for joanne in The Fame booklet and makes a big deal in TMBT film about how they say a prayer each night on tour that ends with joanne the fact she never met her is totally irrelevant because that pain has clearly been passed down through such strong family bonds mother, what must i do? 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 16,692 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said: Your actual birth father ≠ an aunt who died 15 years before you were even thought of I feel like this take just completely ignores the way family trauma manifests in subsequent generations. Like yeah she didn't meet her aunt, but her aunt's early death at 19 was something that did impact her through its impact on the family she does have around her. The gays know how to party 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayhem 2,603 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: That would be Chromatica, ***** Chromatica was more authentic than anything Yee Haw Joanne tried to be. Even Gaga admitted she was trying to do the most unGaga album she could think of because she didn't want to be Gaga anymore Where's the authenticity in that? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Goo Goo 4,076 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, nATAH said: this is so ignorant, the loss of joanne was an incredibly traumatic time for her family that the pain was felt in the next generation she even has a poem she wrote for joanne in The Fame booklet and makes a big deal in TMBT film about how they say a prayer each night on tour that ends with joanne the fact she never met her is totally irrelevant because that pain has clearly been passed down through such strong family bonds If that’s supposed to be the theme of the album then maybe it should have had more than one song about it lmao Lady Gaga doesn't owe us anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 416 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: she didn't meet her aunt, but her aunt's early death at 19 was something that did impact her through its impact on the family she does have around her. Like they literally share the same birth name, I can't even imagine what growing up with that realization must have felt like, to inherently carry with you someone so dear to everybody you love that her presence is around still everyday. But looking backwards at the joanne era, it was just such an off-putting moment for various reasons, that only now we can get an idea of what Gaga's mindset was like at the time. Joanne (the pink suit and cowboy hat gorl) was a character much like any other Gaga's stage persona, the odd thing about her was the trying to make it an actual this-is-real-this-is-me when it so clearly wasn't, not even close I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 7,402 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said: Chromatica was more authentic than anything Yee Haw Joanne tried to be. Even Gaga admitted she was trying to do the most unGaga album she could think of because she didn't want to be Gaga anymore Where's the authenticity in that? Joanne is not only referencing het aunt, it's also her middle name. The whole western styling wasn't authentic, but the actual album is to me. It's very personal songs. Diamond Heart is autobiographical about her rise to the top, Grigio Girls is about her female friends, one of which was dying, Million Reasons, Perfect Illusion and Sinner's Prayer are about her breakup and her wondering if she will ever find a true love. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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