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well good for you I suppose :lolly:

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LateToCult
48 minutes ago, BadKid58 said:

I feel like fans who are calling Joanne her disingenuous era don't really know the artist they are stanning. It is enough to go to her recent My Life In 10 Songs interview, specifically the part where she's talking about Beck, for Joanne to make perfect sense.

Good for Chappell, I hope we get another "Joanne" era, and honestly something that's even more left-field, from Gaga.

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Nagini
1 hour ago, LateToCult said:

Not she’s gearing up for her disingenuous   flop era

I couldn't stand it - I just knew it was fake. Maybe real for Gaga at the time but definitely felt like the biggest costume for an album/era that was supposed to be vulnerable. 

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32 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

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No worries, I didn't want to quote you directly in case you've weren't serious :sue:

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Madame Goo Goo
1 hour ago, BadKid58 said:

I feel like fans who are calling Joanne her disingenuous era don't really know the artist they are stanning. It is enough to go to her recent My Life In 10 Songs interview, specifically the part where she's talking about Beck, for Joanne to make perfect sense.

Good for Chappell, I hope we get another "Joanne" era, and honestly something that's even more left-field, from Gaga.

She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part.

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monstertoronto
16 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said:

She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part.

The “don’t be maudlin” quote from her doc really nailed how I felt about this era. But kudos to her for even allowing that moment to be included. 

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BadKid58
12 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said:

She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met. It reads as disingenuous from that stand point, but I think the music was genuine for the most part.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think someone needs to have personally known a relative to feel the profound impact their death had on their family. I barely knew my father, and I still mourn him to this day.

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Madame Goo Goo
24 minutes ago, BadKid58 said:

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think someone needs to have personally known a relative to feel the profound impact their death had on their family. I barely knew my father, and I still mourn him to this day.

Your actual birth father ≠ an aunt who died 15 years before you were even thought of 

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nATAH
46 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said:

She spent most of that era in a cowboy hat mourning a woman she’d never met.

this is so ignorant, the loss of joanne was an incredibly traumatic time for her family that the pain was felt in the next generation

she even has a poem she wrote for joanne in The Fame booklet and makes a big deal in TMBT film about how they say a prayer each night on tour that ends with joanne

the fact she never met her is totally irrelevant because that pain has clearly been passed down through such strong family bonds

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Bronco
4 minutes ago, Madame Goo Goo said:

Your actual birth father ≠ an aunt who died 15 years before you were even thought of 

I feel like this take just completely ignores the way family trauma manifests in subsequent generations. 

Like yeah she didn't meet her aunt, but her aunt's early death at 19 was something that did impact her through its impact on the family she does have around her. 

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Lord Mayhem
2 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

That would be Chromatica, ***** :grr:

Chromatica was more authentic than anything Yee Haw Joanne tried to be.

Even Gaga admitted she was trying to do the most unGaga album she could think of because she didn't want to be Gaga anymore

Where's the authenticity in that? 

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Madame Goo Goo
13 minutes ago, nATAH said:

this is so ignorant, the loss of joanne was an incredibly traumatic time for her family that the pain was felt in the next generation

she even has a poem she wrote for joanne in The Fame booklet and makes a big deal in TMBT film about how they say a prayer each night on tour that ends with joanne

the fact she never met her is totally irrelevant because that pain has clearly been passed down through such strong family bonds

If that’s supposed to be the theme of the album then maybe it should have had more than one song about it lmao

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gagacabana
5 minutes ago, Bronco said:

she didn't meet her aunt, but her aunt's early death at 19 was something that did impact her through its impact on the family she does have around her. 

Like they literally share the same birth name, I can't even imagine what growing up with that realization must have felt like, to inherently carry with you someone so dear to everybody you love that her presence is around still everyday. 

But looking backwards at the joanne era, it was just such an off-putting moment for various reasons, that only now we can get an idea of what Gaga's mindset was like at the time. Joanne (the pink suit and cowboy hat gorl) was a character much like any other Gaga's stage persona, the odd thing about her was the trying to make it an actual this-is-real-this-is-me when it so clearly wasn't, not even close

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5 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said:

Chromatica was more authentic than anything Yee Haw Joanne tried to be.

Even Gaga admitted she was trying to do the most unGaga album she could think of because she didn't want to be Gaga anymore

Where's the authenticity in that? 

Joanne is not only referencing het aunt, it's also her middle name.

The whole western styling wasn't authentic, but the actual album is to me. It's very personal songs.

Diamond Heart is autobiographical about her rise to the top, Grigio Girls is about her female friends, one of which was dying, Million Reasons, Perfect Illusion and Sinner's Prayer are about her breakup and her wondering if she will ever find a true love. 

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