Why are all the pop girls silent?

[gagzus 18,030]

32 minutes ago, Blackout19 said:

i really believe Madonna will say something
she’s not afraid to speak, and she always cared for her fans, and people in general

i don’t say Gaga doesn’ care, but Madonna has ”bigger baLLs”

Madonna (no offence) has nothing to lose atp though, she’s had her hay day and isn’t miraculously gonna be even a portion of successful in the modern day against current artists that’s just a fact based on her age and public image. 
 

Whether we like it or not, Gaga cares about her image and spent years building it back up to be liked from ALL types of people. If she didn’t she would’ve doubled down after ARTPOP. She hasn’t been vocally political publicly since 2016 really, but tbh I think Liberal Americans thought they would bet trump by a landslide because he wasn’t a politician. And I think that’s why loads of celebs joined in back then but backed off after he won.

[Bronco 17,776]

2 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Madonna (no offence) has nothing to lose atp though, she’s had her hay day and isn’t miraculously gonna be even a portion of successful in the modern day against current artists that’s just a fact based on her age and public image. 

Yeah but the point is, Madonna got to where she is because she constantly risked everything she had to lose. 

[PunkTheFunk 125,502]

4 hours ago, Dojo said:

Gaga cares, just in different ways, not "social media" way, we don't know how she supports bts 

This doesn't cut it in 2026, sorry. Gaga's silence at this critical moment is deafening considering her history of activism.

[gagzus 18,030]

1 minute ago, Bronco said:

Yeah but the point is, Madonna got to where she is because she constantly risked everything she had to lose. 

Yes and no, she got to where she is by making good pop music else she wouldn’t be the biggest selling female of all time. Causing controversy to push her sales was the other part.

Theres a reason Gaga was a shock jock when she started out, because it worked for the biggest acts before her.

While I don’t doubt that Madonna took big swings back in the day, that’s entirely irrelevant in 2026 because she doesn’t have the standing as a public figure amongst the generation that NEEDS to be influenced by politics.

Young people are either entirely uninterested in politics unless it becomes like a reality tv show, millennials around my age are too comfortable to care, and then the last standing older generation is staunchly traditional. The fact of the matter is young people have isolated celebrity opinion based on the whole “wealth is evil” mindset they have now.

[Bronco 17,776]

3 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Young people are either entirely uninterested in politics unless it becomes like a reality tv show, millennials around my age are too comfortable to care, and then the last standing older generation is staunchly traditional. The fact of the matter is young people have isolated celebrity opinion based on the whole “wealth is evil” mindset they have now.

This perception of millenials and younger with politics is just not realistic at all.

[Lucas 29,150]

"Gaga can't stop ICE herself". Yeah ok that's true no celebrity can stop what's happening on their own, but they can at least give a certain level of awareness to people of what's happening, even to countries outside of the USA. Like "Hey look you guys, we voted for nazis fascists and we are in this terrible situation. Try not to do the same mistake in your country"

[gagzus 18,030]

Just now, Bronco said:

This perception of millenials and younger with politics is just not realistic at all.

I think it’s pretty realistic tbh, I can tell you people my age who are left wing are simply not as left wing when compared to younger people from what I’ve seen. Nowadays we’d be considered more central I think. I personally wouldn’t out myself in harms way for a stranger, nor would I expect a person or a business to out themselves on the line for a hot & cold audience. 

Gaga could be vocal and open about it and go to protests etc but the second a new person finds those overly tanned V mag photos, or the picture of her in Berghain with those 2 fans or the fact she hasn’t tweeted the free Palestine hashtag she’s suddenly a bad person again. You can’t win so I think her saying nothing and maybe donating and helping out not publicly works better. Because then she’d be seen as performative. 

[Emvee 8,724]

No one is expecting a pop star to topple a fascist government and its ridiculous that people are trying to exaggerate it like that. 
 

It’s an about solidarity. No single individual can make change by themselves, but when we know we are not alone we find the courage to fight back. It has been extremely demoralizing to see how many people have been quiet about Renee Good and Alex Pretti but felt the need to speak out and post about a bigoted right-wing podcaster. 

At the end of the day, it could be a multitude of things that explain why a celebrity is choosing to stay quiet right now. They are protecting their career. They feel their voice does more harm than good. They are being advised by people around them to not comment. 

[gagzus 18,030]

TLDR: people should stop relying on celebrities to say something and actually force your local representatives to act in your best interest. The time people spend on here making paragraphs about gaga and celebs you could be sending paragraphs to whatever your equivalent of an MP is.

[PartySick 167,870]

8 minutes ago, gagzus said:

the second a new person finds those overly tanned V mag photos, or the picture of her in Berghain with those 2 fans or the fact she hasn’t tweeted the free Palestine hashtag she’s suddenly a bad person again.

Well maybe something that can be construed as black face and being silent during a widely decried genocide are things she should be embarrassed by or ashamed of.

There really is no good reason for anyone with the ear of millions of people to be quiet about important topics. ICE, Palestine, food insecurity, the climate, pick one and speak up or get the f*ck off the stage and make room for someone that deserves the public's eye.

[PartySick 167,870]

18 minutes ago, Bronco said:

This perception of millenials and younger with politics is just not realistic at all.

My perception of most of the under-40 crowd is they're exhausted but begging for inspiration.

Every time we have a leader like Mamdani show up you can see it. Hell, even Kamala tapped into it for a bit there with the help of celebrities like Charli XCX. "Kamala is brat" was f*cking massive and the memes kept the election alive on everyone's fyp.

It 100% matters when public figures say something. Nobody follows a celebrity on a social media site to ignore what they say.

[Ladle Ghoulash 37,036]

10 minutes ago, PartySick said:

My perception of most of the under-40 crowd is they're exhausted but begging for inspiration.

Every time we have a leader like Mamdani show up you can see it. Hell, even Kamala tapped into it for a bit there with the help of celebrities like Charli XCX. "Kamala is brat" was f*cking massive and the memes kept the election alive on everyone's fyp.

It 100% matters when public figures say something. Nobody follows a celebrity on a social media site to ignore what they say.

I mean, but what did the Charli endorsement really *do* for Harris’ campaign other than improve the vibes? If anything, it almost feels like the way that the memes overtook socials gave some people a false sense of security that Harris had enough support so people could comfortably sit it out because she was going to win anyway. 
 

Mamdani is a good example of the type of pol we need moving forward as a way of eliminating celebs as the “middle man”: social media savvy, great communicator, someone who is able to cultivate and court cultural support, but doesn’t need it to keep his ship afloat. 

[PartySick 167,870]

Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I mean, but what did the Charli endorsement really *do* for Harris’ campaign other than improve the vibes? If anything, it almost feels like the way that the memes overtook socials gave some people a false sense of security that Harris had enough support so people could comfortably sit it out because she was going to win anyway. 
 

Mamdani is a good example of the type of pol we need moving forward as a way of eliminating celebs as the “middle man”: social media savvy, great communicator, someone who is able to cultivate and court cultural support, but doesn’t need it to keep his ship afloat. 

Well, if anyone was dumb enough to see Brat memes and think "well, we've got this wrapped up, I'm staying home on election day" then they were already an unreliable voter and shouldn't count regardless  

And sure, Mamdani got the wind behind his back all on his own but it never hurts to have publicly significant figures in your corner.

I will just never be convinced that someone who can instantly speak to millions of people doesn't have an obligation to speak out when it matters  not even about everything, but at least about the causes they've taken up personally.

[Ladle Ghoulash 37,036]

Just now, PartySick said:

Well, if anyone was dumb enough to see Brat memes and think "well, we've got this wrapped up, I'm staying home on election day" then they were already an unreliable voter and shouldn't count regardless  

And sure, Mamdani got the wind behind his back all on his own but it never hurts to have publicly significant figures in your corner.

I will just never be convinced that someone who can instantly speak to millions of people doesn't have an obligation to speak out when it matters  not even about everything, but at least about the causes they've taken up personally.

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t be surprised if that were a lot of people, given the depressed turn out among Dem base voting demos (but no doubt Harris’ wishy-washiness on Gaza and lack of progressive positions didn’t help). I understand where you’re coming from, but I also think the compulsory component surrounding it has become kind of toxic and that component combined with increased algorithmic siloing turns social media activism into preaching to the choir. I think it’s great if celebs want to do it, but I just don’t see it making a meaningful difference in today’s cultural/social media landscape so I guess that’s why it doesn’t necessarily bother me when celebrities don’t do it (especially for someone that has made her political alignment pretty abundantly clear like Gaga).

[PartySick 167,870]

17 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t be surprised if that were a lot of people, given the depressed turn out among Dem base voting demos (but no doubt Harris’ wishy-washiness on Gaza and lack of progressive positions didn’t help). I understand where you’re coming from, but I also think the compulsory component surrounding it has become kind of toxic and that component combined with increased algorithmic siloing turns social media activism into preaching to the choir. I think it’s great if celebs want to do it, but I just don’t see it making a meaningful difference in today’s cultural/social media landscape so I guess that’s why it doesn’t necessarily bother me when celebrities don’t do it (especially for someone that has made her political alignment pretty abundantly clear like Gaga).

Well, that's just a difference of opinion then tbh.

A lot of stans are like "are you really a fan of you don't know where Gaga stands on these issues right now?"

And I'd counter that with "is she really an activist if she stopped acting?"

I've unstanned but I fear if she wants to retain me and people like me as even fans she best be doing something. And platitudes while accepting trophies doesn't count imo  I've definitely been converted into the "silence is violence" crowd and the louder your voice is, the louder it is when you don't use it.