Why are all the pop girls silent?

[Creyk 18,145]

Only Ariana & Olivia Rodrigo spoke out after ICE killed that nurse. This is not to assign blame to any one pop star in general, it's more of a contemplation about why is this a trend amongst them. Do they just not care, or are they scared of being targeted by Trump?

[Dojo 19,688]

Gaga cares, just in different ways, not "social media" way, we don't know how she supports bts 

Edited 20 hours ago by Dojo

[Lord Mayhem 2,390]

2 minutes ago, Dojo said:

Gaga cares, just in different ways, not "social media" way, we don't know how she supports bts 

But also imagine she and her father have decided not to publicly discuss politics to heal their own relationship.

Has he been on any FOX programs lately? 

Im sure Gaga is VERY aware with whats happening rn but until she finishes her tour I dont think she wants any unnecessary controversy following her and affecting ticket sales or protests outside her shows. Its a safety thing honestly...these MAGA people and their weird international supporters are crazy

[Bronco 16,077]

5 minutes ago, Dojo said:

Gaga cares, just in different ways, not "social media" way, we don't know how she supports bts 

Support bts is whats needed during normal times.

Not when extrajudicial nazi death squads are executing people on the streets.

[Bronco 16,077]

Because they're sell outs. 

They only cosplayed as activists when it was easy, when it was a PR spot and good album promo. 

Now that it comes with the risk of a cost they aren't interested. They don't want to get their hands dirty. 

Their life doesn't get any worse under Trump, when Renee & Alex were killed nothing in their life changed. They actively benefit under the Trump presidency, they pay less tax and their incomes have never been better. They have zero reason to stick their neck out. 

[elsamars 5,075]

10 minutes ago, Dojo said:

Gaga cares, just in different ways, not "social media" way, we don't know how she supports bts 

Can you enlighten us how she cares in different ways?

[Obobo 3,633]

Because they are pop girls and have no power against ICE or trump. Lots of pop girls played their part during elections, where their voices would actually matter.

This energy should be placed on the people that can actually make change. Pop girls making statements is just performative at this point.

[weed 75,904]

If I'm being generous I would say fear of Trump coming after them, potential violent attacks, but really... it's shameful. People in masks funded by the government are killing citizens....arresting 5 year olds...kidnapping people off the street and just who knows wtf happens to them...... how much more will it take to speak out?

I don't think they can dismantle the MAGA movement easy peasy but the loud evil minority will continue to convince people they're the majority if people are quiet. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 33,752]

4 minutes ago, Obobo said:

Because they are pop girls and have no power against ICE or trump. Lots of pop girls played their part during elections, where their voices would actually matter.

This energy should be placed on the people that can actually make change. Pop girls making statements is just performative at this point.

Ding ding ding we have a winner. 
 

Not to mention that basically all of the people that would need to hear this message and change their point of view are the last people that would give a **** what a popstar has to say about it and the people who want to hear it from the pop stars are the people who already agree with them. 

Edited 20 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[elsamars 5,075]

4 minutes ago, Obobo said:

. Pop girls making statements is just performative at this point.

This is extremely wrong in many ways and this mindset is extremely dangerous.

But nothing more could be expected from Gaga fans who blindly defends everyhing she does (not). 

[Ladle Ghoulash 33,752]

3 minutes ago, elsamars said:

This is extremely wrong in many ways and this mindset is extremely dangerous.

But nothing more could be expected from Gaga fans who blindly defends everyhing she does (not). 

Genuinely: in what world is a pop star posting an infographic on IG changing someone’s mind (especially people who have been inculcated against “Hollyweird” types)?

Edited 20 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[elsamars 5,075]

Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Genuinely: in what world is a pop star posting an infographic on IG changing someone’s mind (especially people who have been inculcated against “Hollyweird” types)?

It's not about changing minds.

It's about speaking up, showing your stance and fighting.

It's about fighting against normalization. I can't believe I need to explain this in a Gaga forum.

When you don't speak up, when you don't protest, when you don't show any reaction, it becomes a part of every day life. It becomes normalized. 

When it happens to you one day and when no f*cking one gives a damn about you, you'll understand what it means. You'll understand how labeling things "performative" was dangerous. 

[Obobo 3,633]

1 minute ago, elsamars said:

This is extremely wrong in many ways and this mindset is extremely dangerous.

But nothing more could be expected from Gaga fans who blindly defends everyhing she does (not). 

Who said I’m defending Gaga? I’m explaining why silent pop girl behaviour is not unreasonable. Let me know what Gaga can do to help end ICE or Trump…

Gather army of twinks to defeat them? Craft a tweet to get likes? Write a letter to congress that would just be tossed in the garbage?

Be realistic. 

[Dojo 19,688]

13 minutes ago, elsamars said:

Can you enlighten us how she cares in different ways?

 

I confess I am lost

In the age of the social

On our knees, take a test

To be lovin' and grateful

 

Shots were fired on the street

By the church where we used to meet

Angel down, angel down

But the people just stood around

 

I'm a believer, it's a trial

Foolish and weaker, oh, oh, oh

I'd rather save an angel down

 

I'm a believer, it's chaos

Where are our leaders? Oh, oh, oh

I'd rather save an angel down

[elsamars 5,075]

8 minutes ago, Obobo said:

Who said I’m defending Gaga? I’m explaining why silent pop girl behaviour is not unreasonable. Let me know what Gaga can do to help end ICE or Trump…

Gather army of twinks to defeat them? Craft a tweet to get likes? Write a letter to congress that would just be tossed in the garbage?

Be realistic. 

Silence is not neutral. When injustice, violence, or exclusion happens repeatedly without public reaction, it slides from being shocking into being ordinary. That’s how normalization works: not because people agree, but because they stop responding. Protest, outrage, art, and public statements break that slide. They re-signal that something is not okay, that it deserves attention and resistance.

Labeling these acts as “performative” can be dangerous because it shifts the focus from impact to intent. Even if an action begins as symbolic, symbols matter. They shape language, perception, and emotional permission. Once a subject enters everyday conversation songs, TV, celebrity interviews, social media posts it becomes harder to ignore, dismiss, or erase.

You only fully understand this when it happens to you. When something harms you, and no one gives a damn. That’s when you realize what silence creates. That’s when you see how abandonment feels.

Pop culture has always played a role in breaking that silence. In the 80s and 90s, AIDS was ignored because it was seen as “someone else’s problem.” Governments stayed quiet. Media avoided it. People died while society looked away. What changed things wasn’t silence, it was visibility. Artists, musicians, actors, filmmakers, activists made it impossible to ignore. They put faces and emotions to the crisis. They made caring acceptable.

It wasn’t perfect. It wasn’t always elegant. But it worked.

Speaking up disrupts normalization. It keeps pain from becoming background noise. It reminds people that what’s happening is real and that it matters.

Because when no one speaks, cruelty becomes routine.
And once that happens, anyone can be next.

Edited 20 hours ago by elsamars