Is Gaga's World Tour Really for the World?

[Taumaturg0 646]

2 minutes ago, gfer1990 said:

That's exactly why I say that fans in the global south complain about the difference in treatment. The comparison I make is how unfair it is, for example, to have only nine shows and a single city like New York, while Brazil waited more than ten years for a single show, or South Africa, which hasn't seen her since the BTWB.
I sincerely believe that your information about South Africa confirms my point about the difference in treatment between fans from the global North and the global South.

I meant South America when I said SA, should've clarified, my bad  

Edited Thursday at 10:44 PM by Taumaturg0

[Taumaturg0 646]

35 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

The girl can’t please everyone, and she doesn’t owe it to anyone. All this tour stuff is so absurd to me. She could be like Miley and not tour at all. She could be like Ariana and only do the US and the very few EU countries she’s going to. The prices are expensive, yes. Can you imagine the demand if the prices were cheaper? Even less of a chance you’d get tickets. 

OR , she could've done stadiums, with fewer dates in each country, and have an actual world tour. Like she did with the BTWBT, but with a better planned schedule

Or like Ariana did up to the DWT, or Miley doing festivals worldwide during her previous eras. Mentioned them since you brought them up as examples, but look at Taylor, Katy, Dua, Shakira, Kylie, etc. they're all touring way more internationally. But I see you're from the US and I see that it may be hard to understand how it feels to have your fave not even consider a date in your country, even when all artists consistently sell out venues there, as big (Katy and Kylie had around 13k people per date) or bigger (Dua over 70k per date and she has 2, Tsylor sold 3 of those stadiums , Shak over 50K per date and she has 3) than she's currently touring.

Edited Thursday at 11:18 PM by Taumaturg0

[gfer1990 13]

3 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

The girl can’t please everyone, and she doesn’t owe it to anyone. All this tour stuff is so absurd to me. She could be like Miley and not tour at all. She could be like Ariana and only do the US and the very few EU countries she’s going to. The prices are expensive, yes. Can you imagine the demand if the prices were cheaper? Even less of a chance you’d get tickets. 

you're right that she doesn't need to and can't please everyone, but the distribution of shows across countries could be more balanced. She could do fewer shows in more places, which would be less exhausting. besides, I think it would be fair, at the very least, since everyone knows that in terms of streaming and voting, Latin Americans are even more engaged than Americans.

[Monstermilo 4,725]

28 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

The girl can’t please everyone, and she doesn’t owe it to anyone. All this tour stuff is so absurd to me. She could be like Miley and not tour at all. She could be like Ariana and only do the US and the very few EU countries she’s going to. The prices are expensive, yes. Can you imagine the demand if the prices were cheaper? Even less of a chance you’d get tickets. 

were lucky gaga and ariana are touring at all, both have severe trauma associated with touring. 

[RAMROD 110,098]

1 hour ago, gfer1990 said:

 in fact, there is a general feeling, especially among Latin American fans, that they are treated differently, not only because of the scarcity of concerts, but also because of her interactions with fans in the global North. For example, many Brazilian fans were upset that when she came in May, she didn't even come out on the balcony to interact with them, unlike what she does in the US, Europe, or Asia.

I mean, I am not gonna pretend that I was not seeing how Brazilian fans are kinda being dangerous when she was there this Summer. It was so bad that a lot of fellow fans criticizing Brazilian fans, out of concerns for Gaga's safety, with how they didn't give her some space. I am sure you saw it yourself how packed in front of her hotel inn Brazil were? People can get hurt in there if or when she come out, mobbing her, and pushing and shoving happening. You know what I'm saying?

Or that time when she went to Peru for BTWB and few fans actually sneaking into her garage? Like, where are the respect and boundaries?

Fans in US, EU & Japan are never reacting that way, hence she can wander and say hi to them, they always stay within the barrier, so she knows it is safe enough for her fans and herself.

 

Edited Thursday at 11:45 PM by RAMROD

[Taumaturg0 646]

4 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

I mean, I am not gonna pretend that I was not seeing how Brazilian fans are kinda being dangerous when she was there this Summer. It was so bad that a lot of fellow fans criticizing Brazilian fans, out of concerns for Gaga's safety, with how they didn't give her some space. I am sure you saw it yourself how packed in front of her hotel inn Brazil were? People can get hurt in there if or when she come out, mobbing her, and pushing and shoving happening. You know what I'm saying?

 

That's not on the fans, security should be ,anaged by her team and either thre police or private security. If you want to blame someone, it's on Rio's police. 

4 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Fans in US, EU & Japan are never reacting that way, hence she can wander and say hi to them, they always stay within the barrier cos she knows it is safe enough for her fans and herself.

that's... You know what, I'm not even gonna say anything, but the word choices sweetie, what's implied there...

Edited Thursday at 11:46 PM by Taumaturg0

[RAMROD 110,098]

Just now, Taumaturg0 said:

That's not on the fans, security should be ,anaged by her team and either thre police or private security. If you want to blame someone, it's on Rio's police. 

that's... You know what, I'm not even gonna say anything

Or that time when she went to Peru for BTWB and few fans actually sneaking into her garage? Like, where are the respect and boundaries?

[Taumaturg0 646]

6 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Or that time when she went to Peru for BTWB and few fans actually sneaking into her garage? Like, where are the respect and boundaries?

yeah... 'cause US Americans have never done anything crazy like that... at all ... ever... in the history of music... the Imagine memorial in central park is there just because it's cute. 

Moral of the story, crazy fans exist everywhere (but they're less likely to have guns most places) and you should really check your privilege when talking about other nationalities, the "civilized north" rethoric belongs on the 19th century chapter of a history book, not in 2025

Edited Thursday at 11:53 PM by Taumaturg0

[RAMROD 110,098]

Just now, Taumaturg0 said:

yeah... 'cause US Americans have never done anything crazy like that... at all ... ever... in the history of music  

they don't tho? And I am not talking about the creep who think they were Gaga's husband or something, if that's what's you're referring to.

These are literal fans, all 35 of them, in the garage of her residence when she was touring. 35, that is a small mob of people. That is super not OK. Find me any other incidents like that if you think Americans did that before?

 

[Taumaturg0 646]

1 minute ago, RAMROD said:

they don't tho? And I am not talking about the creep who think they were Gaga's husband or something, if that's what's you're referring to.

These are literal fans, all 35 of them, in the garage of her residence when she was touring. 35, that is a small mob of people. That is super not OK. Find me any other incidents like that if you think Americans did that before?

 

Lennon, Selena Quintanilla, Christina Grimmie... 

[RAMROD 110,098]

Just now, Taumaturg0 said:

Lennon, Selena Quintanilla, Christina Grimmie... 

Two of those are the creeps, and the other are working for the artist, And most importantly they were acting alone, not in a small group of people. Try again?

[gfer1990 13]

17 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

I mean, I am not gonna pretend that I was not seeing how Brazilian fans are kinda being dangerous when she was there this Summer. It was so bad that a lot of fellow fans criticizing Brazilian fans, out of concerns for Gaga's safety, with how they didn't give her some space. I am sure you saw it yourself how packed in front of her hotel inn Brazil were? People can get hurt in there if or when she come out, mobbing her, and pushing and shoving happening. You know what I'm saying?

Or that time when she went to Peru for BTWB and few fans actually sneaking into her garage? Like, where are the respect and boundaries?

Fans in US, EU & Japan are never reacting that way, hence she can wander and say hi to them, they always stay within the barrier, so she knows it is safe enough for her fans and herself.

 

Look, honestly, I'm not even going to comment on how much this comparison of the supposed education of Americans, Europeans and Asians differs from that of Latin Americans, because the only thing left to say is that we are savages. I'll just say that yes, there were a lot of people in front of the hotel, none of them were dangerous, they were just singing, and I don't see how appearing on the balcony could be dangerous. If we want to talk about security, look, we held an open concert with 2 million people without any security issues, without any problems for anyone, much less for her, something that honestly would never be possible in the United States, at least without some crazy person showing up and attacking the audience.

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Another thread complaining? Gagadaily should rebrand to Therapydaily.

[MountainMonster 858]

1 hour ago, Taumaturg0 said:

OR , she could've done stadiums, with fewer dates in each country, and have an actual world tour. Like she did with the BTWBT, but with a better planned schedule

Or like Ariana did up to the DWT, or Miley doing festivals worldwide during her previous eras. Mentioned them since you brought them up as examples, but look at Taylor, Katy, Dua, Shakira, Kylie, etc. they're all touring way more internationally. But I see you're from the US and I see that it may be hard to understand how it feels to have your fave not even consider a date in your country, even when all artists consistently sell out venues there, as big (Katy and Kylie had around 13k people per date) or bigger (Dua over 70k per date and she has 2, Tsylor sold 3 of those stadiums , Shak over 50K per date and she has 3) than she's currently touring.

She could have. But she didn’t. And since you seem to be quick to judge those of us from the US - I live in rural Montana. My town is the third largest in the state (a state that is already larger than almost any country in Europe, is about the same size as Japan, and near the same size as some countries in South America) - and not only is there not a Gaga concert in my state; there’s not one in any adjacent state either. But I am not complaining or blaming Lady Gaga. I traveled to go see her. Yes, I am privileged to be able to do so because I worked my butt off to get the money to get the tickets, get the flights and hotels and food and I went. 
 

the real privilege is feeling like somebody has to do something for you. It’s fine to be disappointed that easier options aren’t there. But maybe they will be. Maybe there’s a reason there isn’t something else happening there yet. But it’s pretty hypocritical of you to make snide comments towards those of us who are in the US when our situations may not have been much or any easier than yours. 

[MountainMonster 858]

1 hour ago, Monstermilo said:

were lucky gaga and ariana are touring at all, both have severe trauma associated with touring. 

I agree - even if it’s a limited tour, it’s still better than we’ve gotten in a long time.