Beyoncé and Ivanka Trump last night in Atlantic City

[Bronco 12,247]

5 minutes ago, Monstermilo said:

babe none of gagas well known friends are maga thats all that matters to me. her close circle of ACTUAL friends are all very liberal.

Is Michael, the venture capitalist who built his fortune by profiting off the most inhuman and immoral industry in America, not her actual friend?

6 minutes ago, Monstermilo said:

taylors the one whos been caught associating with the most amount of MAGA folks

Yeah. Because as already discussed - celebrities don't care about politics. 

Like you talk about double standards - lets look at yours.

Fiancé saying a PR line fed to him by his employer after years of liberal activism in the sport = Maga.

Fiancè being a right wing venture capitalist who's fortune comes from Pharma industry = Very liberal

Like the sooner we accept *all* celebrities are bad people the better lol

[Monstermilo 4,714]

31 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Is Michael, the venture capitalist who built his fortune by profiting off the most inhuman and immoral industry in America, not her actual friend?

Yeah. Because as already discussed - celebrities don't care about politics. 

Like you talk about double standards - lets look at yours.

Fiancé saying a PR line fed to him by his employer after years of liberal activism in the sport = Maga.

Fiancè being a right wing venture capitalist who's fortune comes from Pharma industry = Very liberal

Like the sooner we accept *all* celebrities are bad people the better lol

i dont know enough about michael - i know hes part of a company that focuses on cancer immunotherapy but thats a whole different convo.....

i do know gagas done do much for the world so its hard for me to classify her a bad person

shes been speaking out against inequality since day one. the born this way foundation has helped vulnerable youth with counseling services and even housing. shes very vocal about police violence against black americans and has spoken out so many times about racism in this country. shes 100% the most pro gay pop star out there and shes been that way since her debut. her activism has been a running theme throughout her career. shes spoken out against unhuman immigration laws, spoken up about sexual abuse - did a whole tribute to sexual abuse victims at the oscars, always spoken out about abortion rights and other womens issues. if youre a true fan, i dont know how you can label her a bad person? i wouldnt be part of a fan forum of someone i thought was a terrible person

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[Ziggy 11,960]

6 hours ago, Bronco said:

100% this.

The only that changes between Presidents for celebrities is how much tax they avoid. 

Social politics has zero effect on their lives. The obscene wealth cuts them off from any negative politics entirely. 

Politics to celebrities is a brand. They use it, when needed, to get ahead or improve their image. And ignore it when it won't benefit them. Look at the comparison between how Liberal celebs campaigned in 2024 vs 2020.

In 2020, they turned out in droves and were everywhere believing that the side they picked would win and that it was important PR to be involved.

In 2024, they did the bare minimum if they even did anything. They saw their side as a lost cause and didn't want to get wrapped up in a failure.

Politics is sport for them.

Honestly I see it sliiiightly less cynically. I think in 2020 they saw it as a real fight and 2024 probably a cakewalk since in many respects a lot of people did! But let’s remember Beyonce *did give Kamala use of Freedom fairly early in her candidacy. Idk it’s not huge efforts ofc but I think that they like many probably weren’t thinking Trump would win again. It seemed less and less likely as time went on. And liberals more than anyone tend to get lax on politics when it seems less dire.

But I do otherwise agree with you  

[Ziggy 11,960]

19 hours ago, andy232000 said:

I know this probably wasn’t their choice but if your a celebrity in the caliber that Beyonce is, she should’ve just quietly removed herself and ask to be sat somewhere else or leave entirely. Even if they don’t speak, it’s always a bad look to even be near people like them and it’s just easier than dealing with the PR that eventually comes later. 

Yeah basically I doubt they pal around with them but Beyoncé has long been the type to kind of smile and move through the room and do the job. That’s why she is where she is. She knows how to navigate spaces she doesn’t like by now. despite whatever Personal misgivings she might have she’s always been able to put them aside and smile. I actually think among other reasons, that poise is why she’s so looked up to by other celebrities. I mean sh*t pretty hurts is basically that lmfao now do I think that is the *moral thing to do? Eh. I think it’s an enormous privilege to be able to say I can put my feelings aside and sit here with the antichrist (Jared) bc it’s just one night.

[TheLadyInRed 1,621]

Oh Flopyonce 

[RenegAde 19,566]

On 9/16/2025 at 9:11 AM, Monstermilo said:

anyway BACK TO THE TOPIC

jayz was a co-founder 

ivanka and jared should not even be anywhere near that guest list, doesnt matter where they sat - jay and his partners shouldve known not to invited ppl like them

Yeah with all the context now available the backlash makes sense.