Beyoncé and Ivanka Trump last night in Atlantic City

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3 hours ago, Mars said:

Yay lets jump to conclusions at a picture with zero context of what the actual event is..

 

People meet, regardless of political stance.

 

2 hours ago, nATAH said:

now why are we blaming beyonce when somebody else coordinated the seating?

 

2 hours ago, candydarling said:

in these events they dont choose where they are gonna seat

Actually, Jay z was the host of the event, if he wanted, he 100% could have changed seats.

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this shouldn’t really be a surprise to anyone. beyonce and jay z have more in common with the kushners/trump family than their fans, artists do what they need to do to pander to certain demographics 

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And I'm sorry but the "the prison reform" pov of defending this is SENDING ME INTO ORBIT 

Sure, Jared Kutcher and Ivanka Trump are very worried about the well-being of American prisoners.  

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8 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

And I'm sorry but the "the prison reform" pov of defending this is SENDING ME INTO ORBIT 

Sure, Jared Kutcher and Ivanka Trump are very worried about the well-being of American prisoners.  

Trump literally passed the First Step Act in 2018 - a bill that Kushner was heavily involved in pushing during the first Trump admin.
The law outlawed the shackling of women during childbirth, reduced life sentences for low level drug offenders, freed thousands of prisoners on good behaviour grounds and continued Second Chance federal funding through to 2023. It reduced the distance from home that Prisoners could be placed, lessened restrictions on being granted compassionate release and broadened the eligibility criteria. It also mandated direct reporting on opiod treatment in prisons and made feminine hygiene products more readily available to prisoners.

There's plenty of insider accounts that set out that Kushner's support and use of the WH is what got the First Step Act signed into law after Mitch McConnell tried to block it going to the Senate floor. Kushner's been a long term supporter of criminal justice reform after his father was jailed in 2004.

If it's sending you into orbit, I suggest you read up on the subject to help you ground yourself. 

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1 minute ago, Bronco said:

Trump literally passed the First Step Act in 2018 - a bill that Kushner was heavily involved in pushing during the first Trump admin.
The law outlawed the shackling of women during childbirth, reduced life sentences for low level drug offenders, freed thousands of prisoners on good behaviour grounds and continued Second Chance federal funding through to 2023. It reduced the distance from home that Prisoners could be placed, lessened restrictions on being granted compassionate release and broadened the eligibility criteria. It also mandated direct reporting on opiod treatment in prisons and made feminine hygiene products more readily available to prisoners.

There's plenty of insider accounts that set out that Kushner's support and use of the WH is what got the First Step Act signed into law after Mitch McConnell tried to block it going to the Senate floor. Kushner's been a long term supporter of criminal justice reform after his father was jailed in 2004.

If it's sending you into orbit, I suggest you read up on the subject to help you ground yourself. 

Well, defending kushner AND trump is definitely a choice. 

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1 minute ago, lastpopicon said:

Well, defending kushner AND trump is definitely a choice. 

Pointing out facts is not a defense. 

It is a fact that the First Step Act was passed by 2018 under the 1st Trump Presidency. 
It is a fact that Kushner was the main WH support for the passing of the act. 
It is a fact that Kushner supports criminal justice reforms as a result of his father's prison sentence from 2004. 

No where did I say I liked these individuals. No where did I say I supported these individuals. 

I just pointed out that you were trying to be a hater but were doing so on the basis of being wrong. If you want to be a successful hater, be correct. Otherwise, you just look stupid. 

I regret engaging you though, as we can now all see that you've got nothing intelligent to provide to the topic. 

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Just now, Bronco said:

Pointing out facts is not a defense. 

It is a fact that the First Step Act was passed by 2018 under the 1st Trump Presidency. 
It is a fact that Kushner was the main WH support for the passing of the act. 
It is a fact that Kushner supports criminal justice reforms as a result of his father's prison sentence from 2004. 

No where did I say I liked these individuals. No where did I say I supported these individuals. 

I just pointed out that you were trying to be a hater but were doing so on the basis of being wrong. If you want to be a successful hater, be correct. Otherwise, you just look stupid. 

It's also a fact that Kushner and Ivanka are Trump lapdogs, plus, it's 2025, not 2018. Things are different now.

Just now, Bronco said:

I regret engaging you though, as we can now all see that you've got nothing intelligent to provide to the topic. 

The call is coming from inside the home 

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6 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

It's also a fact that Kushner and Ivanka are Trump lapdogs, plus, it's 2025, not 2018. Things are different now.

10 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Things are exactly the same. 
Trump is President again. 
All bills passed by Congress go through Trump and are subject to his veto powers. 

Any non-profit political lobbying group wishing to push it's legislative agenda needs to ensure the levers of power are on side through lobbying. Events like this gala are a key part of American political lobbying methodology. 

7 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

The call is coming from inside the home 

This coming from the person who didn't know the basic facts of a subject they decided to comment on and thought they could just play the "sassy gay" card and then throw blatantly false deflections at people who pointed out where they felt short. 

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Just now, Bronco said:

This coming from the person who didn't know the basic facts of a subject they decided to comment on and thought they could just play the "sassy gay" card and then throw blatantly false deflections at people who pointed out where they felt short. 

You keep saying that, I dont believe for a second that jared and ivanka have any worries about american prisoners, idc about his WH bills, probably lobbied money in his pockets to make it happen.

And the fact that you keep using this as "defense" is hilarious, keep going diva lmao 

List again all good that trump and jared made to "Make America Great Again"  You probably missed some "facts" 

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30 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

You keep saying that, I dont believe for a second that jared and ivanka have any worries about american prisoners, idc about his WH bills, probably lobbied money in his pockets to make it happen.

And the fact that you keep using this as "defense" is hilarious, keep going diva lmao 

List again all good that trump and jared made to "Make America Great Again"  You probably missed some "facts" 

I never said they cared about prisoners.
I said they supported criminal justice reform. 

The Kushners support criminal justice reform because it lessens the penal sentences given out to white collar criminals. The only way to achieve this is through supporting bipartisan criminal justice reform. Hence why they show up to these kinds of events and it's important to have their support while daddy is in the White House. 

You tried to question why any of us were pointing to the organisation behind the Gala and suggested it was false. It is factually not false that the Kushners are pro-criminal justice reform. 

Feel free to continue to show your own ass and be immature and try branding me a MAGA supporter for just pointing out you got it wrong. 

Everyone on this site can see how ridiculous you are being by trying to tar me as pro-MAGA considering this weekend I was celebrating the death of a Nazi and fighting anyone who suggests its a bad thing that a Trump supporter got turned into a fountain. 

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1 minute ago, Bronco said:

I never said they cared about prisoners.
I said they supported criminal justice reform. 

The Kushners support criminal justice reform because it lessens the penal sentences given out to white collar criminals. The only way to achieve this is through supporting bipartisan criminal justice reform. Hence why they show up to these kinds of events and it's important to have their support while daddy is in the White House. 

You tried to question why any of us were pointing to the organisation behind the Gala and suggested it was false. It is factually not false that the Kushners are pro-criminal justice reform. 

Feel free to continue to show your own ass and be immature and try branding me a MAGA supporter for just pointing out you got it wrong. 

Everyone on this site can see how ridiculous you are being by trying to tar me as pro-MAGA considering this weekend I was celebrating the death of a Nazi and fighting anyone who suggests its a bad thing that a Trump supporter got turned into a fountain. 

Don't worry about being branded a trump supporter, i don't think anybody here would actually buy that lmao everyone who reads your posts knows that very well.

BUT for me it's very interesting seeing you defend some things to protect Beyonce, and let's be honest here, subjects you wouldn't touch with a five foot pole for any other people, I guess I would do the same for gaga. 

And let's end the convo here because this isn't going anywhere. 

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2 hours ago, lastpopicon said:

 

 

Actually, Jay z was the host of the event, if he wanted, he 100% could have changed seats.

and that's jay-z's problem, not beyonces

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2 minutes ago, nATAH said:

and that's jay-z's problem, not beyonces

I would think they talk to each other and beyonce knew the seating arraignments  And fr, he's the host, he literally can choose where people sit, no excuses here imo.

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2 hours ago, Addison Rae said:

this shouldn’t really be a surprise to anyone. beyonce and jay z have more in common with the kushners/trump family than their fans, artists do what they need to do to pander to certain demographics 

This! And as other posters said, they could have moved seats if they wanted. They were obviously not bothered. 

Edited yesterday at 12:15 PM by Sarah H

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