Ziggy 12,002 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, elijahfan said: Did it occur to you that MAYBE she just wanted to do arenas, and that's all there is to it? No excuse needed. If you've ever attended an arena and a stadium show, go on and tell me which one was the best experience. Lowkey it depends on the show. Arena kinda blows bc being indoors is like…not really a vibe a lot of times, stadiums can be remote. However, Renaissance was the better than any arena show I’ve ever attended so 🤷♂️ for me, one thing I like with stadiums on a practical level is you and all your girlies are either on on date or another, not like 3-5 different show dates lol Edited September 14 by Ziggy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,922 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Artists who have reached her level and run their career definitely have a bit of a say when it comes to prices. As long as everyone involved is getting paid, tickets don't have to be priced over the score but when you've got so far, you know you can, so you do. The whole "I won't get out my bed for anything less than a million" concept. I'm sure in a different economy, prices would be lower but Gaga wants to put on an all-singing, all-dancing show for us that visits the entire world and with that in mind, she has to price higher. I imagine there's a part of her that wants to compete with the big female tour hitters like Taylor, Beyonce, Madonna and Pink. She must know she deserves to be up there in that hallowed group. Don't tell me she wouldn't like the clout of overtaking Madonna's all-time higher tour record $411 million which was achieved before crazy inflation (which she can easily do with this tour going the way it is). There must be a part of her that feels that she's talented enough to ask for these amounts by now. We know she's going to put it to good use and not fritter it away. And the label, crew and venue will take a cut of it too. And then there's taxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 4,750 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bronco said: At this point I admire your commitment to being wrong on this. Stadium shows don't prevent dynamic pricing which is what is being discussed in this thread. girl yall can say whatever you want but a venue that only allows 18k people versus a venue that can hold up to 80k people will make a hell of a difference (some venues in the world hold up to 90-100k) if she does 5 stadiums dates with a capacity for 350k people versus doing 8 arena shows in one city with a max capacity of 140,000 that is a huge difference in terms of supply of tickets. its simple supply and demand babe she proved that she could do stadium size stops with this tour - mexico, singapore coachella. with 87 arena stops that equals approx 1.74 million total tickets available for everyone with 87 stadium dates worldwide thats about 6.5 million tickets im not talking about her preference for venues im talking about the available tickets to the public if there is less available tickets that makes prices skyrocket since there is limited amount Edited September 14 by Monstermilo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 12,298 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 20 minutes ago, Monstermilo said: girl yall can say whatever you want but a venue that only allows 18k people versus a venue that can hold up to 80k people will make a hell of a difference (some venues in the world hold up to 90-100k) if she does 5 stadiums dates with a capacity for 350k people versus doing 8 arena shows in one city with a max capacity of 140,000 that is a huge difference in terms of supply of tickets. its simple supply and demand babe she proved that she could do stadium size stops with this tour - mexico, singapore coachella. with 87 arena stops that equals approx 1.74 million total tickets available for everyone with 87 stadium dates worldwide thats about 6.5 million tickets im not talking about her preference for venues im talking about the available tickets to the public if there is less available tickets that makes prices skyrocket since there is limited amount The debate isn't "can Gaga fill stadiums" so why you're trying to argue that one I don't know. The debate isn't "there aren't enough tickets to go around". The debate isn't about her preferences. The debate is "is Gaga really in charge of ticket prices". And then a wider debate about whether or not dynamic pricing is right or not regardless of artist. Supply & demand does factor into dynamic pricing - but as we've seen with multiple stadium tours since the introduction of dynamic pricing, that doesn't prevent dynamic pricing leading to rip off prices. And it certainly doesn't stop the base fee being over priced to begin with. Oasis did multiple stadium sized shows this summer, when the tickets went on sale the base price was already overpriced. So for example, their manchester tickets had a price breakdown of GA being £130 and VIP being £300. Within 5 minutes of the sale opening, GA tickets on ticketmaster with dynamic pricing had hit £400+. Beyonce had 6 London dates, and at one point some ticket brackets had hit over £1000 through dynamic pricing. So, this whole idea that if Gaga had gone for a pure stadium tour for this era we'd all have got cheap tickets is just absolutely fantasy. There is no legitimacy to the claim. The base cost of the tickets have not been so extortionate this time around because Gaga went for Arenas. They are that ridiculously overpriced because the touring industry has had 3 years of dynamic pricing experimentation data to show that they can change close to £1000 for front row seats even before dynamic pricing kicks in and it will still sell instantly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 4,750 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bronco said: The debate isn't "can Gaga fill stadiums" so why you're trying to argue that one I don't know. The debate isn't "there aren't enough tickets to go around". The debate isn't about her preferences. The debate is "is Gaga really in charge of ticket prices". And then a wider debate about whether or not dynamic pricing is right or not regardless of artist. Supply & demand does factor into dynamic pricing - but as we've seen with multiple stadium tours since the introduction of dynamic pricing, that doesn't prevent dynamic pricing leading to rip off prices. And it certainly doesn't stop the base fee being over priced to begin with. Oasis did multiple stadium sized shows this summer, when the tickets went on sale the base price was already overpriced. So for example, their manchester tickets had a price breakdown of GA being £130 and VIP being £300. Within 5 minutes of the sale opening, GA tickets on ticketmaster with dynamic pricing had hit £400+. Beyonce had 6 London dates, and at one point some ticket brackets had hit over £1000 through dynamic pricing. So, this whole idea that if Gaga had gone for a pure stadium tour for this era we'd all have got cheap tickets is just absolutely fantasy. There is no legitimacy to the claim. The base cost of the tickets have not been so extortionate this time around because Gaga went for Arenas. They are that ridiculously overpriced because the touring industry has had 3 years of dynamic pricing experimentation data to show that they can change close to £1000 for front row seats even before dynamic pricing kicks in and it will still sell instantly. well thats why you turn off dynamic pricing like ariana did and do no ticket transfer or face value exchange like billie eillish did even if you do those 3 things stadiums with more tickets means more people can go, means the tour is more accessible. 350k ppl being able to go in NYC versus 150K ppl able to go in NYC in arenas means the show is more accessible Edited September 14 by Monstermilo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 12,298 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 20 minutes ago, Monstermilo said: stadiums with more tickets means more people can go, means the tour is more accessible. 350k ppl being able to go in NYC versus 150K ppl able to go in NYC in arenas means the show is more accessible We're not debating accessiblity here - we've done that plenty on threads you've started about this subject. We're debating the cost of Mayhem ball tickets and of concert tour tickets more generally. We need only look to stadium tours in 2025 and those already announced for 2026 to know that stadium tours aren't cheaper than arena tickets for pop acts. Because 2.5 years of dynamic pricing and other anti-consumer tactics (like restricted view/no stage view tickets) have driven up the base face value cost of tickets for consumers. 21 minutes ago, Monstermilo said: well thats why you turn off dynamic pricing like ariana did and do no ticket transfer or face value exchange like billie eillish did The point is - Gaga didn't do any of this. So it didn't matter what venue she picked, her team went with the anti-consumer tactics on top of charging over the odds for tickets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty like sodium 1,958 Posted Friday at 01:59 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:59 AM On 9/14/2025 at 2:53 AM, Future Lovers said: EDIT: I didn’t see you responded to another post explaining this is possible fidkdk but if you want more context: Ticketmaster and LiveNation have the ability to void all tickets found on resale sites. Once the ticket’s been purchased, they can track the unique codes associated with it and can void that ticket. Even if a bot buys them, they have to go into a Ticketmaster account of some sort. They can easily cross reference the information on resale websites to what they’re able to see on their back end and void or canceled tickets. if you ever have to call Ticketmaster for help or use their live chat assistance for help, you’ll notice that they’re able to give you a specific information about your tickets and the reason for that is because they have the ability to view what tickets any given person has at any given time, when they purchased, and more . the only issue here is that a lot of people don't put the correct ticket data on resale sites specifically to counter ticketmaster indentifying and voiding. for the mayhem ball in London, a lot of tickets say the seat is seat "100010" when the seats only go up to 50 for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 7,027 Posted Friday at 02:14 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:14 AM 14 minutes ago, salty like sodium said: the only issue here is that a lot of people don't put the correct ticket data on resale sites specifically to counter ticketmaster indentifying and voiding. for the mayhem ball in London, a lot of tickets say the seat is seat "100010" when the seats only go up to 50 for example. that is true, however, they do have some other options available to them. Why not as easy, they can look at ticket transfers, and compare that against resale listings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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