Ack1234 512 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 When all said we are the people what pay the price ! And they know this . So for for example it no body bought the tickets they would be a lot less . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,293 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Fans forget how popular she is and then are shocked when tickets for smaller venues are expensive and scarce. This kitten over here (meow) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
popkulture 325 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 No. This is all the label. The label's priority is to ensure they get as much revenue as possible. It's a reflection of the capitalist world we live in. I'm sure she has a bit of a say in it but ultimately, it's not the artist's decision whether you want to believe it or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,484 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Y'all are really ignoring the fact all main interscope acts use dynamic pricing. Doing entirely to much. What does that change? Everyone's doing it, so it makes it Ok? Not sure I understand the point you're trying to make here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 36,995 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 5 minutes ago, elijahfan said: What does that change? Everyone's doing it, so it makes it Ok? Not sure I understand the point you're trying to make here. It changes everything lmao If interscope is to blame, blame Interscope, not Gaga, like I've read on this topic multiple times. And tbh, thinking she has the power to actually change how things are done is very missguided. Bring the pitchforks to Interscope. Edited September 13 by lastpopicon The melody that you choose can rescue you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltedplastic 382 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Cavadour said: I'm not so sure about it. Gaga, the singer we all love, is also the product of a huge industry. She certainly doesn't have much leeway to accept or reject certain funding aspects if she wants to achieve her goals as an artist. I bet this dilemma must sometimes eat away at her. On the other hand, since we are willing to pay any price, even if we complain about it, the choice whether or not to do so is ultimately ours. That said, the degree of fandom each person is into, combined with their willingness to pay any price for the show, also tips the balance in this sector. If a large portion of the public seriously boycotted tickets, prices would immediately plummet. Nah all artists can decide whether or not they use dynamic pricing my mum works for live nation 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 7,027 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 10 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Ever thought you might be wrong? Ariana is not under Interscope. Adding to Kendrick Lamar and Billie, here is the list of acts under interscope that use dynamic pricing: - BLACKPINK - Olivia Rodrigo - Snoop Dogg - MGK And the list goes on. It's fair to assume if a main act wants to have a fully backed word tour they NEED to use dynamic pricing, that's probably one of the conditions for interscope to go on board. Gaga is a small part of a much bigger system and she does NOT has the say on everything. And especially because the tour was prepared in such a short notice, I'm sure interscope wanted some guaranties and i believe if we didn't had interscope backing the tour would be much worse. We’re not though. It is common knowledge that an artist can say no to this. We have seen it countless times. Your Intersctooe theory also doesn’t hold water when other Interscope artists are currently or have recently toured and didn’t use dynamic pricing. Sam Fender, Nine Inch Nails, The 1975, and more have all managed to tour without it. Interscope is not forcing any of their artists into dynamic pricing. The artist is choosing to have it. None of us have a hate boner for her lol I flew to Miami for the show, and I’m flying there again in a few months for the rescheduled date. Would I do that if I had a “hate boner”? No. I and a lot of people just refuse to blindly excuse her for every little thing. It is possible to love and respect somebody while also being critical of some poor choices they make. This whole blind stand mentality of “you’re not allowed to ever be critical of any decision she makes or else you’re a hater or have a hate boner” is childish. Grown adults should possess the ability to love someone and be honest when they’re doing something disappointing. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 7,027 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 6 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Like having resell tickets selling for thousands? But she made a ig post, so everything will be fine 1. Gaga does have resale tickets selling for thousands. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. 2. She made an Instagram post confirming she is taking the steps necessary to allow the scalped tickets to get into the hands of real fans not resellers. It has been demonstrated by a few artists now such as Oasis and The Cure that this is possible to do and all it takes is getting in contact with the correct people. So yeah, if an artist wants to combat scalping and resellers, they can. Ariana has obviously seen this and is taking the initiative to do something about it so yeah I do reckon everything will be fine for her tour just like it was when The Cure and Oasis took the scalping battle on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 36,995 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: We’re not though. It is common knowledge that an artist can say no to this. We have seen it countless times. Your Intersctooe theory also doesn’t hold water when other Interscope artists are currently or have recently toured and didn’t use dynamic pricing. Sam Fender, Nine Inch Nails, The 1975, and more have all managed to tour without it. Interscope is not forcing any of their artists into dynamic pricing. The artist is choosing to have it. None of us have a hate boner for her lol I flew to Miami for the show, and I’m flying there again in a few months for the rescheduled date. Would I do that if I had a “hate boner”? No. I and a lot of people just refuse to blindly excuse her for every little thing. It is possible to love and respect somebody while also being critical of some poor choices they make. This whole blind stand mentality of “you’re not allowed to ever be critical of any decision she makes or else you’re a hater or have a hate boner” is childish. Grown adults should possess the ability to love someone and be honest when they’re doing something disappointing. Lmao you are really comparing acts like gaga, kendrick, and billie to freaking Sam Fender. You know what, Eminem also doesn't have dynamic pricing and he's under interscope, the difference is, he barely tours and his stage can be bought at IKEA. You literally have no clue what you are saying and blaming gaga for it, this "common knowledge" you seem to have, is not common at all if you look at the big interscope acts. Edited September 14 by lastpopicon The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 7,027 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ashley said: Yeah I think her ig post was just to appease her fans. It’s not like she can force the resellers to give back their tickets. EDIT: I didn’t see you responded to another post explaining this is possible fidkdk but if you want more context: Ticketmaster and LiveNation have the ability to void all tickets found on resale sites. Once the ticket’s been purchased, they can track the unique codes associated with it and can void that ticket. Even if a bot buys them, they have to go into a Ticketmaster account of some sort. They can easily cross reference the information on resale websites to what they’re able to see on their back end and void or canceled tickets. if you ever have to call Ticketmaster for help or use their live chat assistance for help, you’ll notice that they’re able to give you a specific information about your tickets and the reason for that is because they have the ability to view what tickets any given person has at any given time, when they purchased, and more . Edited September 14 by Future Lovers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 36,995 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: 1. Gaga does have resale tickets selling for thousands. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. 2. She made an Instagram post confirming she is taking the steps necessary to allow the scalped tickets to get into the hands of real fans not resellers. It has been demonstrated by a few artists now such as Oasis and The Cure that this is possible to do and all it takes is getting in contact with the correct people. So yeah, if an artist wants to combat scalping and resellers, they can. Ariana has obviously seen this and is taking the initiative to do something about it so yeah I do reckon everything will be fine for her tour just like it was when The Cure and Oasis took the scalping battle on. 1. I never denied gaga had resale ticket selling for thousands. 2. Let's see how is the outcome, till something happens, they are just pretty words on social media. The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 12,002 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Y'all are really ignoring the fact all main interscope acts use dynamic pricing. Doing entirely to much. I mean if we’re talking about prices that are sometimes 2-3 months’ rent I don’t think anyone is doing too much; you just have one opinion you have said many times over bc that’s the theory you have. That’s great. It has sound reasoning. But these are exorbitant prices being asked. Asking about why they’re so much more expensive than her past shows is more than reasonable when we’re being asked to spend that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,484 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, lastpopicon said: It changes everything lmao If interscope is to blame, blame Interscope, not Gaga, like I've read on this topic multiple times. And tbh, thinking she has the power to actually change how things are done is very missguided. Bring the pitchforks to Interscope. People have shown with several examples that artists, big or small, can choose to opt out of dynamic pricing. Don't tell me that Lady ****ing Gaga doesn't have the power to make such a request to Interscope We can blame the label and Ticketmaster all we want, but at the end of the day it's her name on that marquee - if she felt a business decision reflected badly on her brand, you'd best believe she'd take swift action. Then again, I'm not pointing fingers, it's legal so they can do whatever they want and that's the way it is. I do love Gaga and I'm not blaming her, but I'm also not turning a blind eye to the obvious fact that she could do something about it, and she doesn't. She's an incredibly talented, dedicated and generous artist but we shouldn't forget that she's also a millionaire businesswoman living in a villa in Malibu and she's very much about this way of life now. It's OK not to agree with everything your fave says or does, doesn't mean we love them any less, but it's important to be lucid about things. Edited September 14 by elijahfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 7,027 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 20 minutes ago, lastpopicon said: Lmao you are really comparing acts like gaga, kendrick, and billie to freaking Sam Fender. You know what, Eminem also doesn't have dynamic pricing and he's under interscope, the difference is, he barely tours and his stage can be bought at IKEA. You literally have no clue what you are saying and blaming gaga for it, this "common knowledge" you seem to have, is not common at all if you look at the big interscope acts. So let me get this straight. The hill you’re dying on is that Gaga is way bigger than all of these acts and yet she doesn’t have the power to say no to dynamic pricing but they do? That doesn’t make much sense. And yes, it is common knowledge. I don’t know why you’re refuting that when all official sources say that artists and can opt in or out for dynamic pricing, I’m not blaming Gaga for anything. She is not running that whole tour all by herself. I am simply pointing out that she does ultimately have a say and that if it all really bothered her as badly as some of you all want to believe it does, she would do something about it or at the absolute least acknowledge it like many of her peers have. I don’t understand this compulsion to kiss her ass some of you have, but it doesn’t make you any less of a fan to say yeah sometimes she makes disappointing choices. It doesn’t make you any less of a fan to pose fair criticism when she does either. We don’t have to excuse and protect the artists we like all the time. It’s okay—dare I even say healthy—to not cosign every little move she makes. It also doesn’t make someone a little complainer or a little manager to decide that they don’t want to put stan blinders on and forgive her for doing the same things they criticize other artists for which is some on GGD’s favorite pass time. Edited September 14 by Future Lovers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 36,995 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: So let me get this straight. The hill you’re dying on is that Gaga is way bigger than all of these acts and yet she doesn’t have the power to say no to dynamic pricing but they do? That doesn’t make much sense. And yes, it is common knowledge. I don’t know why you’re refuting that when all official sources say that artists and can opt in or out for dynamic pricing, I’m not blaming Gaga for anything. She is running that whole tour all by herself. I am simply pointing out that she does ultimately have a say and that if it all really bothered her as badly as some of you all want to believe it does, she would do something about it or at the absolute least acknowledge it like many of her peers have. I don’t understand this compulsion to kiss her ass some of you have, but it doesn’t make you any less of a fan to say yeah sometimes she makes disappointing choices. It doesn’t make you any less of a fan to pose fair criticism when she does either. We don’t have to excuse and protect the artists we like all the time. It’s okay—dare I even say healthy—to not cosign every little move she makes. It also doesn’t make someone a little complainer or a little manager to decide that they don’t want to put stan blinders on and forgive her for doing the same things they criticize other artists for which is some on GGD’s favorite pass time. I'm simply saying we wouldn't get this type of tour if Gaga didn't accept Interscope's dynamic pricing, and I'll repeat again, all main acts under Interscope that boast world tours like gaga have dynamic pricing on, pretty huge coincidence. And the "official sources" lmao The tour was made in short notice, cost alot of money, and she employs dozens of people, I can almost guarantee you interscope made her sign a contract that guarantees all the goodies she needed in short notice in exchange of dynamic pricing, that for them is a great guarantee of money return. Sure, the artists have the choice to skip dynamic pricing at interscope, nobody points a gun to their head, at the cost of having IKEA stages like Eminem. Edited September 14 by lastpopicon The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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