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  1. 1. Did Tim Burton fail to deliver? Answer only based on Tim Burton

    • Yes, expected more from him
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3 hours ago, Luv u Sum said:

the video was kinda what i expected (mainly cuz the leak) but it was kinda boring to me outside of gaga's performance. and apparently they used AI to animate the dolls which pisses me off so bad 

No it wasn’t AI, start using your brain cells instead of immediately believing any old crap some idiot posts on Tiktok, for Christ’s sake!!!!!:saladga:

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6 minutes ago, nATAH said:

why would they lie tho? people tend to be proud that they've used AI + burton is anti-AI

Because they got caught? Not everyone wants to admit they were lazy, especially if they're known for better work. I personally don't believe them, anyone who is familiar with the way AI "animates" would recognize the morphing limbs, the inconsistent shapes and the oddly "jiggly" and "slippery" movements it tends to produce. If it really isn't AI which I doubt, it's a very bad job with questionable choices.

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Just now, uglysexy said:

Because they got caught? Not everyone wants to admit they were lazy, especially if they're known for better work. I personally don't believe them, anyone who is familiar with the way AI "animates" would recognize the morphing limbs, the inconsistent shapes and the oddly "jiggly" and "slippery" movements it tends to produce. If it really isn't AI which I doubt, it's a very bad job with questionable choices.

...sounds more like you wish for it to be AI despite the facts + can no longer tell the difference between AI and VFX anymore

i've only seen the video once, idc enough to rewatch it again, Burton is vocally anti-AI, there's no reason to lie

mother, what must i do?
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3 minutes ago, nATAH said:

...sounds more like you wish for it to be AI despite the facts + can no longer tell the difference between AI and VFX anymore

i've only seen the video once, idc enough to rewatch it again, Burton is vocally anti-AI, there's no reason to lie

Not really. I just watched the video and clocked the weird details while watching it again on higher resolution. I'm just being objective. If I put myself in place of the VFX artist, I struggle to understand these odd choices because it's like they wanted it to imitate AI deliberately. No one seeking to animate these details "manually" aka without AI would do it in that way. Also AI and VFX are very easy to distinguish, which is why so many people can clearly see how weird it looks.

I believe both Gaga and Tim are against AI, but Mayhem's visuals are AI, that one poster was AI, promo material uses AI, and now the details in this video use AI. I guess it's fine, not like anyone's going to care in two days. My problem with it is that it just looks bad.

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Y’all can complain all you want about it, it’s still miles better than Stupid Love :cheeky:

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥
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2 minutes ago, uglysexy said:

Not really. I just watched the video and clocked the weird details while watching it again on higher resolution. I'm just being objective. If I put myself in place of the VFX artist, I struggle to understand these odd choices because it's like they wanted it to imitate AI deliberately. No one seeking to animate these details "manually" aka without AI would do it in that way. Also AI and VFX are very easy to distinguish, which is why so many people can clearly see how weird it looks.

I believe both Gaga and Tim are against AI, but Mayhem's visuals are AI, that one poster was AI, promo material uses AI, and now the details in this video use AI. I guess it's fine, not like anyone's going to care in two days. My problem with it is that it just looks bad.

I mean the whole video is bad so i'm not shocked the vfx is bad too :volantis:

also gaga doesn't seem anti AI, she loves to repost it a lot on TT and as you said, used it in her own work + hasn't spoken out against it like Burton has

mother, what must i do?
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2 minutes ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

Y’all keep trashing TEOG as if it wasn’t one of her most beautiful music videos :littlepotter: Y’all hate it just because it’s simple

I didn’t know that TEOG’s music video had such a bad reputation until now :giveup: I love it!! 

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥
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6 minutes ago, REALITY said:

I didn’t know that TEOG’s music video had such a bad reputation until now :giveup: I love it!! 

It’s only among the fans obviously (as usual), the GP loves it

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Guyyyyys what? I love the video! No, it's not on par with Abracadabra or Disease, but it's supposed to be promo for Wednesday, maybe a viral-TikTok-dance and some chart placement.

I loved the idea of Gaga releasing one more song off of MAYHEM and she worked with Tim Burton...who knows, there might be so much more to come in the future. But for now I'm just happy that she's done a music video given the amount of hard work she put into rehearsing for the tour. If I were her, I would be kind of glad to not have a super epic, long music video right before touring, it seems stressful. And also: she looks phenomenal in every single shot, the scenery is beautiful thanks to Burton. So yea, I loved it! 


And now I just hope she is okay after her Miami cancellation

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Omg some people really are incapable of seeing the difference between AI and VFX/Photoshop. If the producer says no AI was used, why keep questioning it. Also the poster was never confirmed to be AI. And even if AI was used, it is not always bad. I am a designer as well, and I use it as a tool. It is no replacement. 

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Gardevoir

The whole video is amazing and well thought out. Not everything has to be overwhelmingly busy. Video is simpler and it works perfectly. 
 

im glad I watched tons of YouTube reaction from non fans specifically, cause almost all of them were really appreciative of it all, cause lurking here at all this mess I started to think if there’s something wrong with me for enjoying it that much. I guess it comes with every Gaga release, the toxicity.

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