Ziggy 14,092 Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 3 hours ago, Bronco said: I agree with you on Clinton, and she's just realistically trying to avoid the Epstein storm. As for the credit thing - being given credit isn't inherently about good or bad. So I absolutely give him the credit, because his presidency has forced the hand of Europe & Canada at long last. His actions served as the cold bucket of water needed for them to wake up and see the US for the enemy at the gate that it really was. Like, as a result of his actions, the post-war German consensus and European consensus around defence has been completely torn up. And hopefully, its momentum will continue us down the path of greater industrial and agricultural independence. True! And I see what you mean. Idk I guess to me it’s maybe semantics but I would say I “attribute these effects to his actions” more so than I would “give him credit” for the situation. I think the former speaks to a certain historical scale and how things create one another even unexpectedly whereas the other speaks directly to owned cause. So all’s to say is I agree with you in spirit but I think I’d phrase it differently personally just for how I view the situation 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ode 1,534 Posted August 18, 2025 Share Posted August 18, 2025 ABOLISH ICE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted August 19, 2025 Author Share Posted August 19, 2025 Everyone on this thread: "No, tf, she's not praising him. She's just expressing admiration or approval of the achievements of Trump" Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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