Sarah H 3,687 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) Well, the ad did its job. It got people talking about it. Edited July 31 by Sarah H 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 16,777 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, suchheights8 said: This is only problematic if you search for it. At the end of the day it's simply an American Eagle ad...like are we really discussing this as being Nazi rhetoric? Sometimes (believe it or not) things are created to just send a simple message...like selling jeans. I think people are thinking way to deep about this - lets move on and actually care about the world's problems. i don't think it would be as big of an issue if the US/world wasn't in the state it's in, with the president it has and if the actress they used was not blonde hair and blue eyed 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,188 Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 The White House is now defending this ad. Says it all! 8 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 11,708 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, B tchfork said: I miss the 2000s when people weren't offended by literally everything We also didn't have multiple fascist political leaders in significant positions of power being bankrolled by billionaires. To put it in gay terms. We're at the half way point of Cabaret. The Emcee has started appearing with random bruises. The costumes are getting darker. The venue getting grimey. The gorilla is just a funny gag and nothing insidious. This is still just a story about a cabaret club isnt it? There's nothing to worry about is there? 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,116 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Are we going to pretend that "having good genes" isn't a common saying to refer to attractive people? Sydney's brand for the past two years has been based around the fact that she's beautiful - every time I hear about her, it's because of this, rather than her acting career. She was the ideal person for this ad. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalOne 10,799 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 The caucasity jumping out of some ppl in this thread 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 25,135 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Oriane said: Are we going to pretend that "having good genes" isn't a common saying to refer to attractive people? Sydney's brand for the past two years has been based around the fact that she's beautiful - every time I hear about her, it's because of this, rather than her acting career. She was the ideal person for this ad. This has got me questioning your tagline, ngl. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,260 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Maybe she didn't write the script for the ad, but like idk.. critical thinking? she could have say something or decline doing this ad? She's not stupid, she's supposed to be a strong independent woman and all that.. so she could do 1+1 and get the bad message of this ad.. but she didn't or she did but didn't give a f-ck about it. the money was more important. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 10,773 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, River said: Maybe she didn't write the script for the ad, but like idk.. critical thinking? she could have say something or decline doing this ad? She's not stupid, she's supposed to be a strong independent woman and all that.. so she can do 1+1 and get the bad message of this ad.. but she didn't. the money was more important. The money & her jeanealogy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 25,135 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: We also didn't have multiple fascist political leaders in significant positions of power being bankrolled by billionaires. To put it in gay terms. We're at the half way point of Cabaret. The Emcee has started appearing with random bruises. The costumes are getting darker. The venue getting grimey. The gorilla is just a funny gag and nothing insidious. This is still just a story about a cabaret club isnt it? There's nothing to worry about is there? The “If You Could See Her” analogy here is spot on We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 11,708 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Also for folks seeing the comparisons to Nazi propaganda and going "dont be so dramatic". Do you think Nazi propaganda was all about promoting antisemitic violence? If so, you are massively undereducated on the subject. Nazi propaganda was about convincing the German people that the Nazis were the solution to societal issues. It was about presenting the "perfect face of Germany". It was the offer of work and bread to the masses following a massive economic collapse. It was about promoting an idealistic german future. It was so much more than just hook nosed goblins hoarding money. 8 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,260 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, Bronco said: Also for folks seeing the comparisons to Nazi propaganda and going "dont be so dramatic". Do you think Nazi propaganda was all about promoting antisemitic violence? If so, you are massively undereducated on the subject. Nazi propaganda was about convincing the German people that the Nazis were the solution to societal issues. It was about presenting the "perfect face of Germany". It was the offer of work and bread to the masses following a massive economic collapse. It was about promoting an idealistic german future. It was so much more than just hook nosed goblins hoarding money. also the "blue" in the ad is very similar to how the nazi saw the blue eyes as one of the Aryan traits So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celloo Deng 55,082 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) they would have gotten away with this concept if they hadn't picked someone so aryan looking. doesn't bode well in the current climate at all Edited July 31 by Celloo Deng she/her 👹🖤 | Vanish Into You 🎶 HMHAS 🎶 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 11,567 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 18 minutes ago, suchheights8 said: This is only problematic if you search for it. At the end of the day it's simply an American Eagle ad...like are we really discussing this as being Nazi rhetoric? Sometimes (believe it or not) things are created to just send a simple message...like selling jeans. I think people are thinking way to deep about this - lets move on and actually care about the world's problems. To people familiar with the concept of eugenics and the rise of fascism, this ad is pretty plainly dogwhistling. No need to search for it. That's why the criticism happened so quickly and widely. Advertisements using similar concepts also started popping up with the rise of Hitler's party. This isn't new territory so people who bother to read the guidebook are quick to pick up on the steps we're reaching. Yeah, it's an advertisement for jeans. But it's an advertisement following trends to sell better and the current trend is white people talking about how good their genetic makeup is. That's a world problem we shouldn't be moving on from. We've been moving on from a lot of things to focus on other problems for years and look where we've ended up so far. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdrake 1,062 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) dude I'm all for pointing out actual dogwhistles, but this is a massive stretch. it's not that deep. the joke is that she's a hot blonde with big naturals and that she has great "genes" for making her so hot. this pun has been done so many times. is it brilliant advertising? no. but it's not saying "she is hot and better because she's white", it's just saying she's hot also the company was founded by two jewish men (the Silverman brothers), and the CEO Jay Schottenstein is also jewish. I DOUBT any of them would be like "okay yeah lets put some nazi-ism into our ads" it's not that deep. people can stretch anything they want into portraying something awful, and I think that can be detrimental when it comes to pointing out actual, intentional dogwhistling (which I don't think this is) edit: btw I have a college degree in Marketing in case anyone wants to call me delusional etc Edited July 31 by timdrake 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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