Official Charts Thread

[TEANUS 15,589]

We need a viral “it’s time” Mariah Carey x Christmas moment but for Gaga x Halloween 

Michael and Bobby, make it happen

[Gaby15 14,191]

2 hours ago, Mirrion Rizzons said:

Does anyone know why Kworb no longer updates the youtube stats daily, and why they lump either 2 days or like 1.5 days into one?

I guess, it is a bug. It happened a few times before.

[RochestrMonstr 3,272]

Leave it to HAC to Stan! That’s a great thing about Gaga being older is that she is probably able to get a lot of the HAC audience easily because of it. 

[James Gibson 3,529]

2 hours ago, andy232000 said:

Sabrina's album fell considerably more flat that SnS, which was her previous year. No artist has ever won Pop Vocal twice in consecutive years as well. If Gaga is nominated in here, its a lock for her for sure. The issue is there are rumors Mayhem was moved to Dance Electronic Album, which might be a bad thing because the Dance voters are much more closed off than pop and Mayhem is more synth pop that edm. I still think she could win in Dance Electronic, but I would rather her stay in Pop. 

As for the AOTY race, I have spken extensively about this in this forum, but in a nutshell, Gaga IS a front runner. There are only three possible contenders: Her, Kendrick and Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny's downfall is that his album is totally in Spanish and as much as the progressive attitude of the Academy is true, the big visible wave of immigration issues happened months ago and its possible its impact on voters could be fading. He is also a much more global artist than a domestic one. Yes, I agree he has a shot and his album was acclaimed, but I do have to remind everyone that never has a latin album won AOTY before and I cannot stress enough how tone deaf American are, which conform the majority of the voters. According to the 2024 Membership report only 10% of the voting members are latinos, while 49% are white, and Debi Tirar Mas Fotos only truly hits if you're latino. Im sure some white voters will empathize and agree that its an important record, but no enough to pull him to the top. 66% is also over 40 . Will they even try to be progressive? In a weaker year, sure he could win. In a year like this one, the nomination is his price. 

As for Kendrick, the only think keeping him in the race is his reputation and "overdue" narrative, which we know is effective given Beyonces win this year. He is the #1 choise and everyone knows this. His only two potential downfalls are the following: 1. He is not campaiging at all, and 2. Vote splits + Voter fatigue. Kendrick has not released a new single, done talk show appearances, performances, social media, nothing at all since the superbowl. He is radio silent (probbaly to avoid voter fatigue). People remember him because he smashed on 2024. However, as remembered as he may be, if someone else campaigns hard enough, his silence will allow for them to overtake the race. Secondly, he already won ROTY and SOTY last award season. A kendrick sweep is unlikely, as winning these categories back to back has never happened before either. There's also politics involved. The Grammys have notoriously hand picked winners and they might be swayed to give at least one of these to someone else to keep the show entertaining. Finally, The Weekend and Justin Bieber could earn AOTY noms and steal his much needed votes in the RnB fields. Chromakopia could also be nominated and steal a few from hip hop. And kendrick NEEDS to gather enough votes across all genres to beat whoever is the POP album nominee (spoiler alert, it will be Gaga). 

Gaga has the current most strong campaign. She reinvigorated the album with The Dead Dance and the voting muscle she will have is the largest of the whole voting block. Unless another pop album splits her force (Sabrina, I hoep you dont pull anything funny), Gaga will have the better odds statistically speaking on paper. 

Not saying Gaga will win, but her changes are pretty much there, and this race is pretty much reduced to this 3. No ones else has the voting muscle to pull it off. 

The Dance/Electronic Album rumor is fake. It came from a dumb little monster who is always spreading fake news regardless of awards. I'm pretty aware of BPVA never been won back to back however the moments it was possible (Gaga with BTW or Ariana with TUN) they were up against juggernauts era and well, Mayhem did great and Gaga has a wonderful campaign but it's not a juggernaut as 21 and Billie's debut was. That is to say, that Sabrina during her popularity peak is a contender yes as she got multiple hits from this album in a very short period. I don't even think it's a good album nor find Sabrina an interesting artist at all. But can't ignore her likabiity is strong rn as an it-girl.

Still, I see Gaga having an edge so far: solid numbers for the album, one smash hit and another sizable one, most acclaim than ever for the music and live performances, more respect as an artist now than during her breakthrough. She is a frontrunner for BPVA, yes, but am very cautious to call her a lock. Abracadabra in Dance Pop Recording is a true lock tho, no other contenders at all.

For AOTY I will have to disagree with you. Kendrick not only is overdue, he became a true cultural force ever since last year and his chart topping post Super Bowl was outstanding (winning him his second Emmy). His commercial success ben stellar and the album is also much acclaimed like the rest of his discography. We can't rule him out at all since, specially in the USA, this was a stronger year for him than Gaga.

I agree on Bad Bunny being a tough call cause of his language and probably not enough genres support. His win would carry a lot of historical weight that we don't know how aware voters are right now. But his popularity with this album also burst some bubbles. He is in the mix, but certainly not as strong.

Gaga's campaign, reinvogaring the era with VMAs, TDD, Wednesday, even the Colbert performance to highlight the range of her music all is much welcomed and effective. It's crucial to keep her name alive as a contender (even in BPVA as Sabrina has a perfect timing with her album release). But it is very hard to call her a frontrunner right now. There's still much water to go but I'm hopeful she will have a promising run at the Grammys.

ATM I have her in BPVA, Dance Pop and Music Video if the latter panel lets her be nominated. Hopeful for more to come.

[TEANUS 15,589]

29 minutes ago, RochestrMonstr said:

Leave it to HAC to Stan! That’s a great thing about Gaga being older is that she is probably able to get a lot of the HAC audience easily because of it. 

Its sound (funk-pop) has been rather popular on HAC in this decade too. Thanks to Dua, Sabrina, etc. They spammed Break My Heart and Levitating especially

Edited Thursday at 05:26 PM by TEANUS

[andy232000 12,206]

30 minutes ago, James Gibson said:

The Dance/Electronic Album rumor is fake. It came from a dumb little monster who is always spreading fake news regardless of awards. I'm pretty aware of BPVA never been won back to back however the moments it was possible (Gaga with BTW or Ariana with TUN) they were up against juggernauts era and well, Mayhem did great and Gaga has a wonderful campaign but it's not a juggernaut as 21 and Billie's debut was. That is to say, that Sabrina during her popularity peak is a contender yes as she got multiple hits from this album in a very short period. I don't even think it's a good album nor find Sabrina an interesting artist at all. But can't ignore her likabiity is strong rn as an it-girl.

Still, I see Gaga having an edge so far: solid numbers for the album, one smash hit and another sizable one, most acclaim than ever for the music and live performances, more respect as an artist now than during her breakthrough. She is a frontrunner for BPVA, yes, but am very cautious to call her a lock. Abracadabra in Dance Pop Recording is a true lock tho, no other contenders at all.

For AOTY I will have to disagree with you. Kendrick not only is overdue, he became a true cultural force ever since last year and his chart topping post Super Bowl was outstanding (winning him his second Emmy). His commercial success ben stellar and the album is also much acclaimed like the rest of his discography. We can't rule him out at all since, specially in the USA, this was a stronger year for him than Gaga.

I agree on Bad Bunny being a tough call cause of his language and probably not enough genres support. His win would carry a lot of historical weight that we don't know how aware voters are right now. But his popularity with this album also burst some bubbles. He is in the mix, but certainly not as strong.

Gaga's campaign, reinvogaring the era with VMAs, TDD, Wednesday, even the Colbert performance to highlight the range of her music all is much welcomed and effective. It's crucial to keep her name alive as a contender (even in BPVA as Sabrina has a perfect timing with her album release). But it is very hard to call her a frontrunner right now. There's still much water to go but I'm hopeful she will have a promising run at the Grammys.

ATM I have her in BPVA, Dance Pop and Music Video if the latter panel lets her be nominated. Hopeful for more to come.

Sabrina is arguably not in the highest of peaks rn. Her album did better numbers, but critically it did decrease. she also already lost the novelty that she had with SnS where her whole "it takes 10 years to make it", narrative and "picture-finish race" in the Best New Artist category were happening. She also lacks an Espresso. Yes, Manchild and Tears are decent hits, but neither "dominated" the summer nor have been out enough time to earn a "song or record of the year" quality. I get why people see Sabrina as a threat, so did I! But after seeing the conversations revolving around the album, after the controversies, and even going as far as to looking at her scheduling conflicts with her tour and grammy campaign (She'll still be tourng SNS tour until late november, well past the optimal time to campaign), there's just little chance she will be able to bulldoze every nominee in BPV Album, and by the time she manages to surpass every other artist, she has to face Gaga, which is the biggest titan in this year's line up. Gaga has more history, more acclaim, and more weight as an artist. Yes, we can be cautiously optimistic, but I personally do not see Sabrina winning anything this year.

Man's Best Friend is pretty much mirroring every trend regarding the "follow-up album to a successful era" trope. Billie's "Happier than Ever", Olivia's "Guts" and Dua Lipa's "Radical Optimism", all failed to win or even be nominated at the grammys despite being successful chart toppers by "hot and peak" artists. Not even "The Tortured Poets Department" was able to win a grammy award following Midnights. Why? because voters were still fresh on the juggernaut that the previous album was. I really encourage people to look at the trends, members tend to vote based on trends, subconscious or not.

Sabrina's ultimate downfall is the bar she herself set last year. 

Not sure why you are disagreeing about Kendrick. We have the same opinion lol. The thing I will say tho, is that even if his album had multiple smash hits, they all happened in late 2024. I'm still putting him on the lead, but recency bias is a true thing that happens and someone with a very strong and aggressive campaign could eclipse him- granted their album was successful and acclaimed too-, Gaga just so happens to meet those characteristics, and so does Bad Bunny. And like I said, Gaga's chances of not winning are very high too, but she does have the statistical advantage.  When i speak about this I am factoring variables people who typically just think about "cultural acclaim" ignore, like the demographic composition of the voting pull, size of the voting blocks, voting tendencies, etc. There is a lot of variables, and where Kendrick has the upper hand in one, Gaga has the upper hand on another. Lets remember Kendrick lost AOTY 4 times, and several of those times to pop records. Pop just happens to have a natural advantage over all genres. It will be a hell of a race to see. His strongest case is his overdue narrative, not so much the album itself imo. If I were Gaga, I would be pushing this narrative too, she has lost just as many times. Michael should get on it!

About your picks! I agree with all of them. I do think Abracadabra winning Best Direction at the VMA's is a great pre-course award cause its a category that is not fan voted, unlike VOTY. It also won Best Art Direction, which is also industry voted. Abra was also the only video that was nominated in all technical categories. I think it has a shot at a nom. 

In more "wildcard" nominations, I can see her pulling one in Best Pop Solo with Vanish Into You, and maybe a very random category like Best Album Cover. 

Edited Thursday at 05:42 PM by andy232000

[monketsharona 84,282]

If I had to pick a trendy Halloween song this year I would go to Abracadabra instead of TDD. Abra has so much potential to go 1 billion in the coming year. A boost would be welcomed.

 

[Biagio2103 6,323]

I mean let's be real, Mayhem going for Dance/Electronic Album is the smarter move, it's basically a secured Grammy, same with Abra going for Dance Pop Recording instead of Pop Solo. Charli secured these two categories this year while she saw the rest of Brat being snubbed in every other category despite being one of the favorites to sweep (I'd love to see Mayhem winning AOTY, but competition is tough).

I know y'all want Pop Vocal Album (so do I), but going for Dance/Electronic would be more impactful as Gaga will become the first female to win that category twice and only the fourth act to win on multiple occasions. For Pop Vocal Album we've had three female acts winning twice (Taylor, Kelly, and Adele). I feel Gaga has a solid legacy to have enough votes to win Pop Vocal Album over Sabrina and Tate, but I rather not taking the chances, specially since the Pop committee has a history of favoring younger talents. This category in particular usually rewards the album with the most hits (not Mayhem, sadly).

Also VIY going for Pop Solo seems like the smarter move, Gaga was able to pulled off a win with "Joanne" due to the strong and emotional vocal delivery (and ASIB's momentum), even going against "Havana" (arguably the most popular female song of that year) and "God is a woman" (one of Ariana's best vocal deliveries). 

Abra also shouldn't have a problem winning Best Music Video (unless Brighter Days Ahead can be considered a MV).

[jacs vs looser 4,421]

3 hours ago, TEANUS said:

We need a viral “it’s time” Mariah Carey x Christmas moment but for Gaga x Halloween 

Michael and Bobby, make it happen

They should make a Gagaween special performance on Netflix: Some 8 songs maybe? Including Bloody Mary, Disease, Abracadabra, Monster

[TEANUS 15,589]

3 minutes ago, jacs vs looser said:

They should make a Gagaween special performance on Netflix: Some 8 songs maybe? Including Bloody Mary, Disease, Abracadabra, Monster

Bloody Mary (w/ Jenna)

Disease

Abracadabra

Monster

Garden Of Eden

Perfect Celebrity

The Dead Dance (w/ Jenna and Emma)

Zombieboy

Imagine 

Edited Thursday at 07:05 PM by TEANUS

[Cpeer 4,197]

2 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

Bloody Mary

Disease

Abracadabra

Monster

Garden Of Eden

Perfect Celebrity

The Dead Dance

Zombieboy

Imagine 

She likes performing Imagine randomly, so why not for Halloween 

[TEANUS 15,589]

20 minutes ago, Cpeer said:

She likes performing Imagine randomly, so why not for Halloween 

In a Yoko Ono Halloween costume 

[DesertWolf 49,348]

Australian radio chart

#7 (+4) The Dead Dance *new peak* (outpeaks Abracadabra, same peak as HBDUWM)
747 spins (+159) 1934 total spins

#23 (-3) How Bad Do U Want Me 
311 spins (-106) total spins 10958

NZ radio chart

#23 (=) The Dead Dance
355 spins (-15) 820 total spins

[Gaby15 14,191]

Spotify monthly listeners:

1 The Weeknd 113,590,317 (+271,445)

2 Bruno Mars 111,035,138 (+159,802)

3 Justin Bieber 100,804,325 (+68,411)

4 Lady Gaga 100,788,077 (+65,711)

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 26,180]

I think Abra has more chances to win SOTY than MAYHEM has to win AOTY

Like honestly, who else? Where´s the competition? Last year was tough with all these huge songs, but this year? The hardest thing will be for them to find 8 songs to nominate 

Edited Thursday at 08:12 PM by AVeryGagaHolyDick