Official Charts Thread

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30 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Spotify Global

#9(+1) DWAS - 3,416,628
#42(-3) TDD - 2,188,859
#178(-6) Poker Face - 1,206,557
#193 Abracadabra - 1,183,425 (Re-Entry)

full update.

DWAS beating TDD 

Poker Face Beating Abra

 

The world is a screwed up place

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1 minute ago, Louvre said:

woof

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8 minutes ago, Skyana Rava said:

Songs have been known to stablize at mid numbers  there's hope that it won't just disappear.  right?  Right?!?!? 

 

Sadly there is no chance. She did everything. She performed at an awards show, she posted several TIKTOK's, it's included in a super successful show, it has a cool music video, it had #1 on TTH. They tried very much. It didn't stick. It is what it is. 

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Just now, Creyk said:

Sadly there is no chance. She did everything. She performed at an awards show, she posted several TIKTOK's, it's included in a super successful show, it has a cool music video, it had #1 on TTH. They tried very much. It didn't stick. It is what it is. 

You're talking as if the song is over lmao The song is still pulling +2M streams, charting all over europe and top 10 global hit.

Unsure what you want lol And any other song from mayhem would have FLOPPED compared to TDD lol 

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41 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Global

#42(-3) TDD - 2,188,859

We're still doing better than some girl's last lead singles.

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1 minute ago, HIMe said:

We're still doing better than some girl's last lead singles.

And with some patience TDD will still surprise everyone

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yeah, it’s starting to look like it’s over. Even if it’s still stable and not dropping harshly, we don’t know how bad the weekend drop will be and if it will recover. Its just not showing signs of sticking with anyone sadly. Fans are not too enthusiastic about it and the GP hasn’t really picked it up either. 
 

All in all, I think this was a great test for Gaga and her team to know what type of singles to choose going forward. In the end, if a radio friendly generic funky pop song didn’t do it, it’s best to stick to the hardcore edm dark pop fans love. Abra had much better legs than this and that was probably because, even if the GP and radio didn’t pick it up, the core fanbase was too invested, too in love with it and that kept it doing numbers. 
 

Times are changing and it’s not worth it to appeal to the masses. You simply can’t. It’s time to appeal to your fans and hope there’s enough of them to keep you going. Had TDD been more of a fan favorite sound, I’m sure it would’ve performed better. Sometimes I wish Gaga had a fan advisor on her team to champion for what trends and things little monster want. TDD was absolutely against everything that we know works, from sound to visual, and even tho Gaga often times knows best and this was a good one-off test, it could be beneficial to be more close to what fans are more sensitive to nowadays with the current state of the market.

Edited Thursday at 08:49 PM by andy232000

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1 minute ago, andy232000 said:

 Had TDD been more of a fan favorite sound, I’m sure it would’ve performed better. 

now, this is FUNNY 

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3 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

now, this is FUNNY 

I think it’s a possibility. I mean the fans really rallied for Abra. There’s enough track record to suggest maybe more fans would’ve streamed it consistently had it been more leaning to what the first half of Mayhem sounds like.

I know edm tends to flop, but so did this sound (or at least it’s starting to) so I mean, makes sense to please the core fanbase now that we know .  It’s certainly an easier feat that charming the GP

Edited Thursday at 08:53 PM by andy232000

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@andy232000 what songs do you think she needed to push to have more commercial sucess than TDD?

Genuinely curious. 

Edited Thursday at 08:53 PM by lastpopicon

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5 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

I think it’s a possibility. I mean the fans really rallied for Abra. There’s enough track record to suggest maybe more fans would’ve streamed it consistently had it been more leaning to what the first half of Mayhem sounds like.

Abra's sucess being because of this fanbase is a myth tbh, the hype was mostly driven by tiktok and dance trends.

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10 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

@andy232000 what songs do you think she needed to push to have more commercial sucess than TDD?

Genuinely curious. 

I feel like there’s always a certain level of volatility because when you think you know, suddenly a very different song rises.

But of off Mayhem, looking for a “balanced” friendly-enough, yet with enough fan-fueled support, the track that comes to mind first would be Garden of Eden. 

I agree with some takes that Vanish Into You might've flopped, but I also feel like had it been released with a video at the right time or during Copacabana, it would’ve performed just about the same or better than TDD. 

That’s also another thing, timing and optics are very significant. But I feel those two picks would probably have more of a core-fan support that would at least sustain the song or maybe not have it drop so brutally. I do agree that tracks like Zombieboy would not be better than TDD cause those are too fan-based. I genuinely thought that Don’t Call Tonight or a sound like that might’ve been good with the GP, and then TDD dropped, and now it seems like it’s not moving the needle either, which is why I feel like GOE would’ve been the best “moment” specially for gay culture. 

But at the end of the day, my overall beef with the single choices this era is that nothing was dropped at Copacabana. Any song would’ve debuted great after Copacabana. I will forever fight whomever decided against it even is it’s Mrs. Polansky herself 

Edited Thursday at 09:03 PM by andy232000

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2 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Abra's sucess being because of this fanbase is a myth tbh, the hype was mostly driven by tiktok and dance trends.

I agree with its peak being driven by Tik Tok. Its real stamina after debut I do think is fan-love. 
 

In contrast, I dead serious see TDD not pulling even 1M in the next two or three months.

Edited Thursday at 09:02 PM by andy232000

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55 minutes ago, Plastic Flower said:

Well, we can't say they didn’t try to make it a hit.  It’s just not sticking as much as we would want it to. I’m afraid we're being too hopeful about a Halloween boost, the GP will probably spam Bloody Mary instead.

Yeah, they tried hard this time, but the GP simply didn't like the song enough, and I can't blame them: I'm a stan and I've played the song 3 times total since it came out, it's cute but not memorable IMO.

I feel like they should've used GOE on the show instead, that song packs more punch, but oh well.

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Just now, andy232000 said:

I feel like there’s always a certain level of volatility because when you think you know, suddenly a very different song rises.

But of off Mayhem, looking for a “balanced” friendly-enough, yet with enough fan-fueled support, the track that comes to mind first would be Garden of Eden. 

I agree with some takes that Vanish Into You might've flopped, but I also feel like had it been released with a video at the right time or during Copacabana, it would’ve performed just about the same or better than TDD. 

That’s also another thing, timing and optics are very significant. But I feel those two picks would probably have more of a core-fan support that would at least sustain the song or maybe not have it drop so brutally. I do disagree that tracks like Zombieboy would not be better than TDD cause those are too fan-based. I genuinely thought that Don’t Call Tonight or a sound like that might’ve been good with the GP, and then TDD dropped, and now it seems like it’s not moving the needle either, which is why I feel like GOE would’ve been the best “moment” specially for gay culture. 

But at the end of the day, my overall beef with the single choices this era is that nothing was dropped at Copacabana. Any song would’ve debuted great after Copacabana. I will forever fight whomever decided against it even is it’s Mrs. Polansky herself 

Sure, if we look in retrospect we can find good times to release new singles, ViY after copacabana, HBDUWM when the summer was starting etc.

But don't think GoE or zombieboy or any other album track from MAYHEM would do better commercially if it released when TDD did  

That's ridiculous, they are 7 old month songs doing 300k daily streams at best, no promo in this world could make them reach +3M daily streams.

Lets stop with what if's, the what if's are all flops.