USA and Iran Conflict

[Kayioshka 3,372]

These people are puppets, I don't buy it.  

Trump, Netanyahou, Ali Khamenei are comedian to me, not politicians. Idk what are their aim, but at this point so much ridiculous and paradoxal choices were adopted... They all tend to the escalation to war. I knew that politics was fake but now it's getting even sadder.

They all are the representants of faded nations of ghost with broken dreams that no longer mobilize themselves together against the attacks they're facing. If the real Americans, Israelian, Iranian people were lucid about who are their real enemies, the corrupted and cowardish people that rule the world, they would unite against them.

Remember, that these guys are very aware of what they're doing, they're not psychotic as they seem. They rule partys that divide people on purpose, they're nepotics and they have gone beyond social and moral labels. 

Stay strong guys. There's still hope as long as you take care of your loved ones and see the potential of human empathy. 

Gaga's words about the way evil divide :

 

 

[SharkmanthaC 115,066]

4 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

Well with Democrats we know 100% we will get a war for decades, but with Trump its unpredictable and changeable, he might not go with what is expected from a war criminal.

Just imagine how scary it would be if Hilary Clinton was in charge, and announced a war in the Middle East!

We wouldn’t even be in this mess if it wasn’t for Trump doing away with the nuclear deal with Iran. Your posts read as though a woman would incapable of running the US. 

[ActualPatient 2,512]

11 hours ago, Onlygaga said:

Can someone who is more educated on issues like this please explain the probability of war? I’m genuinely terrified. Is it going to happen? Are we gonna be okay? 

maam war is already on. not an expert but either:

a. Nuclear deescalation was successful. Nuclear war is much less likely if Iran's nuclear capabilities have been neutralized. Iran will choose peace talks to protect its ruling party.

b. Nuclear deescalation was NOT successful and Iran had some advanced nuclear weaponry unknown to UN outside Fordo. Catastrophe imminent.

c. Nuclear deescalation was successful but Iran will wage open war to US. Covert ops will be through terrorism like it was in the early 2000s. US will have little choice but do another Iraq / Afghanistan and destroy Iran's Ayatollah. It will be a protracted conflict.

[faysalaaa 5,341]

21 minutes ago, SharkmanthaC said:

We wouldn’t even be in this mess if it wasn’t for Trump doing away with the nuclear deal with Iran. Your posts read as though a woman would incapable of running the US. 

If you view my criticism of Hilary as sexist, I dont think we can even have a discussion. Hilary Clinton is an individual human being that does not represent women. My criticism of Hilary is based on her scary history in the Middle East, which makes her incapable of running the US.

And yes I know Trump is the main reason why this war with Iran happened, thats why I said hes horrible.

[SharkmanthaC 115,066]

13 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

If you view my criticism of Hilary as sexist, I dont think we can even have a discussion. Hilary Clinton is an individual human being that does not represent women. My criticism of Hilary is based on her scary history in the Middle East, which makes her incapable of running the US.

And yes I know Trump is the main reason why this war with Iran happened, thats why I said hes horrible.

You've also criticized Kamala in the same manner. I am not saying Hillary would have been better. What do you think would have been the solution?

[SharkmanthaC 115,066]

This press conference is a joke.

[Bambino 24,321]

53 minutes ago, Kayi said:

Gaga's words about the way evil divide :

She remained silent on the genocide in Gaza so.. 

6 minutes ago, SharkmanthaC said:

What do you think would have been the solution?

Whoever gets in charge of the US will always to submit what Israel wants. Yes, Trump is a monster and a psycho, Kamala spoke about Palestinians in a better way for example, but none of them would say no to Israel. Even if Kamala (or Bernie, or whoever) was President, she would still back Israel in whatever it's doing just like Biden's administration fully supported Israel in its genocide of Gaza. 

I can get where you're coming from since you're American, and Kamala's policies would've been different for you, but as an international person, whose peace is unfortunately influenced by the US wants, it makes no difference for me because both would be supportive of Israel's unconditional atrocities against Palestinians/the Middle East.

[MOT 3,614]

I believe that this will cost Trump a significant amount of electoral support. I think a lot of people voted for him as the no-wars candidate, but now he's starting a war. He himself and Fox etc are good at spinning stuff, but I don't see how you spin this. If your thinking was black-and-white enough in the first place for you to vote for Trump as the no-wars guy, then I don't see how you get past this. He bombed first, he started it.

[PartySick 172,975]

7 minutes ago, Bambino said:

She remained silent on the genocide in Gaza so.. 

Whoever gets in charge of the US will always to submit what Israel wants. Yes, Trump is a monster and a psycho, Kamala spoke about Palestinians in a better way for example, but none of them would say no to Israel. Even if Kamala (or Bernie, or whoever) was President, she would still back Israel in whatever it's doing just like Biden's administration fully supported Israel in its genocide of Gaza. 

I can get where you're coming from since you're American, and Kamala's policies would've been different for you, but as an international person, whose peace is unfortunately influenced by the US wants, it makes no difference for me because both would be supportive of Israel's unconditional atrocities against Palestinians/the Middle East.

Bernie Sanders would absolutely have stood up against Israel. I'm also convinced Netanyahu would have reigned himself in more if Kamala Harris were president 'cause he wouldn't have been able to be sure about unconditional US support.

Whether either would avoid an attack or war with Iran or put an end to the current genocide in Palestine, idk. And we'll never know. But the chances would have been better at least.

What we do know Trump is uniquely weak and prone to manipulation. Strike his ego and he's puddy in your hands. Israel directly disobeyed him and now they're letting him post on social media as if this was all his idea. He's just their dancing monkey.

It's why the likes of Putin and Netanyahu wanted him to win.

[nezumi 39]

18 minutes ago, Bambino said:

She remained silent on the genocide in Gaza so.. 

Whoever gets in charge of the US will always to submit what Israel wants. Yes, Trump is a monster and a psycho, Kamala spoke about Palestinians in a better way for example, but none of them would say no to Israel. Even if Kamala (or Bernie, or whoever) was President, she would still back Israel in whatever it's doing just like Biden's administration fully supported Israel in its genocide of Gaza. 

I can get where you're coming from since you're American, and Kamala's policies would've been different for you, but as an international person, whose peace is unfortunately influenced by the US wants, it makes no difference for me because both would be supportive of Israel's unconditional atrocities against Palestinians/the Middle East.

Are you kidding? We all know Kamala/Biden policies were not good at all, but can't you see how thinks escalated since Trump is on charge? I can't f*cking believe people trying to place all 3 in the same bag. Disgusting

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Anyone who say that Kamala would have been good to Israel, don't understand anything in the Israeli politics lol

I always find this claim to be hilarious 

Kamala was considered hostile and pro Palestinian, the right and far right didn't want her, they did a huge campaign against her on the Israeli social media and US Jewish social media, Netanyahu hated Biden as well.

Just to make you understand how much the right wing in Israel LOVES Trump, this showed up Today in Tel Aviv, was ordered by the Likud Party members.. messed up.

 

[faysalaaa 5,341]

2 minutes ago, SharkmanthaC said:

You've also criticized Kamala in the same manner. I am not saying Hillary would have been better. What do you think would have been the solution?

My opinion is Trump shouldnt have withdrawn from the Nuclear deal, and Biden should have re-entered the deal like he promised. If Trump wanted Iran to stop their Nuclear, he can easily re-enter the deal and end their Nuclear. So to me, this is clearly not about Nuclear, its about regime change war. This is literally the same scenario as the Iraq war, where Netanyahu lied about Iraq having Nuclear weapons, then America attacked Iraq for Nuclear weapons, then they shifted the goal to regime change.

My criticism of Kamala and Hilary also applies to the male politicians in the party (Like Biden and Pete for example). My favorite politician ever running for president was Tulsi Gabbard (not anymore), so I do believe in women being presidents.

[faysalaaa 5,341]

4 minutes ago, nezumi said:

Are you kidding? We all know Kamala/Biden policies were not good at all, but can't you see how thinks escalated since Trump is on charge? I can't f*cking believe people trying to place all 3 in the same bag. Disgusting

Biden and Kamala allowed Israel to commit a genocidal war, and Trump allowed Israel to create a war

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1 minute ago, faysalaaa said:

Biden and Kamala allowed Israel to commit a genocidal war, and Trump allowed Israel to create a war

I think Kamala would have done the same except not publicly. The Israeli lobby is just too entrached in both parties, but Kamala would have tried to save face or at least not brag about it. 

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China, Pakistan, Oman, have condemned US bombings in Iran.