BBC: Beyoncé dazzles despite slow ticket sales in Europe

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7 hours ago, Borislshere said:

I agree. I loathe stadium tours so much, the views are terrible for the price you’re made to pay. I fear she won’t ever return to arenas but I’m for sure going to her next show for act 3

she'll probably be back in arenas in like 10-15 years. I do loathe stadiums but the seats I had this time in London were pretty awesome tbh.

7 hours ago, LilMonst3r said:

Well I believe the country Americana isn’t something that all of Europe is gonna get excited to see. Especially with the political climate.

their loss tbh. The show is a very bold challenging of current American values and an act of rebellion and political defiance when you really study what she's doing, saying and showing. It really is quite amazing that there is such a famous artist like herself being so openly political in her work, and it's a treat for all of those who went.

5 hours ago, alecks said:

I wonder how well having the Star Spangled Banner in her setlist plays in Europe lol. I can only imagine there are audible boos from the audience during the song. 

People don't really boo here we're not Americ*nts. 

2 hours ago, Lord Mayhem said:

Doesnt that just prove my point? 

The Grammys is also highly subjective...you'll never please everyone no matter who wins the awards but to say you DESERVED an award simply because you released a project and havent won in a certain category is a bit entitled if you ask me...and to think they basically handed her the award for Cowboy Carter and that wasn't even her best body of work...it felt so underwhelming once she won honestly cuz it felt her family kept nagging for it

How would that prove your point ...  You said people don't play her music in stores I literally disproved you with an example that was not even in her core market to prove to you that you were wrong. Maybe you're just not going to the types of clubs, stores and listening to the radio stations that DO play her music ...  You are more than welcome to read into that what you will, there is subtext there for you to decipher. 

She never said she DESERVED an award because she isn't dumb. But the entire industry was getting uncomfortable seeing her top herself time after time and lose to a white artist who just reheated their own nachos each time. First she lost to Taylor Swift when she did her double album "I Am... Sasha Fierce". Then to Beck when she did her visual album "Beyoncé" that was a surprise-drop and was so impactful it forever changed the day new music was released to Fridays (it was Tuesday before that). Then to Adele when she made her film about black womanhood, love, motherhood, identity, power and pain, "Lemonade". Then to Harry Styles when she made her love letter to black queer ballroom culture in one of the most exquisite musical time capsules ever crafted, filled with easter eggs, samples and references: Renaissance.

Claiming she acted entitled is just evidence of your own ignorance and bias since she personally never said she deserved it. The only time she referenced the AOTY was in the song "BUCKIIN'", where she said she didn't win, didn't let that pin her down, took it on the chin and started writing again. Taylor Swift literally cried about not being nominated for reputation after having won twice (and has since won 2 more times for albums that are nowhere close to as polished, ambitious and creative as Beyoncé's) are... But ok. 

Yes, Jay Z did speak out about it when he got a lifetime achievement award because it was an unspoken thing within the industry and global landscape. It's a well known fact awarding bodies have racist tendencies which can be very clearly broken down and evidenced by the lack of non-white actors/singers earning the main awards across the ceremonies throughout the years.

You probably also aren't aware of the fact that only 4 AOTYs have gone to black women in the entirety of Grammy history. Taylor Swift singlehandedly has earned that award more times than the combined list of all the most influential and pioneering black women in music (Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Rihanna, Janelle Monáe, SZA, Alicia Keys, Solange, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Chaka Khan, Donna Summer, Gladys Knight, Tina Turner, Nina Simone, Etta James, and so many other incredible black female artists, have never won AOTY once). The truth is whether Jay Z had spoken up or not, the Grammys probably still would have given it to Cowboy Carter due to optics, because the amount of losses for projects that deserved to win was becoming a problem for them and they were aware of that.

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47 minutes ago, culturalbaptism said:

She's great at pretending everything is fine when hell cuts loose, legends only.

Why are you so obsessed with criticising her? First dragging her into Diddys Nachos and now dragging her for performing her a$$ off in the rain (twice) and being a total pro about it. What is your issue exactly? 

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19 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

This is true for most of the world I think. Other than "Single Ladies" and "Telephone", I don't think she has any other easily recognizable songs for the general audience, outside the United States. Nobody in my family can probably name a single song by her. I'm actually surprised she can carry big crowds globally at all considering her lack of hits, and how intrinsically "US" her music is. 

I think the growth in recent years of a global Pop audience, has greatly benefitted acts like Taylor and Beyoncé, who were pretty local quite frankly. Taylor is now a global phenomenon, and Beyoncé might not be a titan of the same caliber, but she can still sell tons if tickets worldwide... with a niche audience, really, she doesn't have the catalog that Madonna, Britney or GaGa have. 

This is still a win for her TBH. Even if her tour isn't sold out, it is still remarkable. She's doing great. 

She only tour in US, London and Paris lmao. That's not "worldwide".

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19 hours ago, SHALLOW said:

Most Europeans can't name more than 3 Beyonce songs tbh

Same in Asia,we only know Halo,Single ladies and Telephone 

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6 hours ago, AkariGaga said:

Same in Asia,we only know Halo,Single ladies and Telephone 

@SHALLOW these shows aren't for 'most europeans', they're for european fans. Having gone to the show I can confirm a lot of people knew more than 3 songs. In fact in the London first night she didn't even sing Irreplaceable since the audience was so loud she just let the audience sing the entire song.

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22 minutes ago, salty like sodium said:

@SHALLOW these shows aren't for 'most europeans', they're for european fans. Having gone to the show I can confirm a lot of people knew more than 3 songs. In fact in the London first night she didn't even sing Irreplaceable since the audience was so loud she just let the audience sing the entire song.

Ofc that's obvious. Just saying that in Europe there are way less Beyonce fans compared to the U.S. We know her for her persona and because people keep saying she's a goddess or something but she never made a huge impact music wise.

I'm a huge fan of pop music, always have been, I'm on this forum every day and even then i struggle to name more than 5 of her songs. 

You're clearly a fan so please don't read this the wrong way. It's not a critique, it's just how it is, at least here in Italy.

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1 minute ago, SHALLOW said:

Ofc that's obvious. Just saying that in Europe there are way less Beyonce fans compared to the U.S. We know her for her persona and because people keep saying she's a goddess or something but she never made a huge impact music wise.

I'm a huge fan of pop music, always have been, I'm on this forum every day and even then i struggle to name more than 5 of her songs. 

You're clearly a fan so please don't read this the wrong way. It's not a critique, it's just how it is, at least here in Italy.

I think you need to remember that the UK is part of Europe and since it's an English speaking country there are more casual fans here than in the rest of Europe too! But even in the US, most people who go to concerts nowadays are fans. I would never spend £100+ to go see someone in a crowded venue that I wasn't a fan of 

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3 minutes ago, salty like sodium said:

I think you need to remember that the UK is part of Europe and since it's an English speaking country there are more casual fans here than in the rest of Europe too! But even in the US, most people who go to concerts nowadays are fans. I would never spend £100+ to go see someone in a crowded venue that I wasn't a fan of 

Well, I'm talking about the E.U. then.

I really don't mean to be rude but by what I've seen people really don't know her songs.  Probably the same way Gaga's song are not famous in Azerbaijan  It's just how it is 

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1 hour ago, salty like sodium said:

@SHALLOW these shows aren't for 'most europeans', they're for european fans. Having gone to the show I can confirm a lot of people knew more than 3 songs. In fact in the London first night she didn't even sing Irreplaceable since the audience was so loud she just let the audience sing the entire song.

Honestly, I'm not even a Beyonce fan and don't even know that many UK/European fans. 

But it's crazy to say that UK and continental european markets don't know Beyonce songs like she hasn't been massive whenever she turns her hand to pop music and eurodance influenced pop. Like I could easily name a setlist's worth of Beyonce songs without having ever bought a Beyonce album. 

Some folks will just say any old **** to justify their negativity

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Seeing her in a week so hyped 

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5 hours ago, SHALLOW said:

Well, I'm talking about the E.U. then.

I really don't mean to be rude but by what I've seen people really don't know her songs.  Probably the same way Gaga's song are not famous in Azerbaijan  It's just how it is 

In France a lot of French people know songs from Renaissance, as well as all the albums before the Self-Titled. The albums from Self-Titled onwards were more marketed towards the US, that's true. But that's still more than 3 songs. I'm guessing the same goes for most of western Europe.

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On 6/7/2025 at 3:27 AM, River said:

Title should be: America is attacking Europe with country music  once again - Europe attacks back with low sales and interest. America is pikachu shocked.

In Trump terms, the US insists on exporting more of its Country culture... Europeans retaliate with non tarrif measures such as lack of interest

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She sold out 3x Stade de France (one of the biggest European stadiums in terms of concert capacity) in less than 1 hour and people still find a way to say she's flopping in Europe? Lmao. 

Simple reason why London is "only" 90% sold out: it has 6 dates, tickets pricing are much much higher (more than double what you would pay in Paris) because the Ticketmaster/whole concert industry has a problem, and it's one of the most expensive European cities to travel to and stay in. 

Many people who are not Londoners are probably dreaming to go but can't afford London - which is why getting tickets for Paris was such a battle. Were the Stade de France available for more dates it would've sold out very quickly, no doubts.

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6 minutes ago, Scrat said:

Simple reason why London is "only" 90% sold out: it has 6 dates, tickets pricing are much much higher (more than double what you would pay in Paris) because the Ticketmaster/whole concert industry has a problem, and it's one of the most expensive European cities to travel to and stay in. 

 

Also worth pointing out - its a country album focused tour in a nation with a very small country music market (that's predominantly white and in my exp racist) so little chance of pulling in outsiders esp given the cost. 

And they announced the extra dates on the day the shows went on sale because of the insane queues - but failed to realise a lot of people were leaving the queue without buying due to the insane dynamic pricing. 
Firmly believe without dynamic pricing Beyonce would have sold out all 6 dates tbh.