Linus Gaga 8,229 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 44 minutes ago, Zaskar said: The rest of the world doesn’t follow American cultural standards. Asian countries had no significant history of black people slavery. Exactly, sick of them everytime thinking they're the "international" and they are the standard, anything from outside is weird and wrong. Imagine if Asian cancel them when they mixed up Taiwan and Thailand, thinking Chinese words is Japanese, calling all Asian Chinese. Out of context but I also hate when they think Asian have never seen a lot of westerners Hit me a message and say hi ! 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENlGMA 5,340 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 It’s getting so TIRING to cancel people over old videos. Also nobody knows if they were forced to sing these songs or the slurs because these kpop companies are HELL. They were so young and probably had no clue. I’m pretty sure they’re sorry and feel ashamed now. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareon Voyager 379 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 38 minutes ago, Linus Gaga said: Exactly, sick of them everytime thinking they're the "international" and they are the standard, anything from outside is weird and wrong. Imagine if Asian cancel them when they mixed up Taiwan and Thailand, thinking Chinese words is Japanese, calling all Asian Chinese. Out of context but I also hate when they think Asian have never seen a lot of westerners Mixing up someone’s Asian ethnicity is not the same as using the n-word. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,214 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I find it funny a lot of the world consumes US media but this detail somehow isn't common knowledge. 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandauralife 891 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 It sounds like a lot of y'all probably would've voted for Tr*mp... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,373 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 18 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I find it funny a lot of the world consumes US media but this detail somehow isn't common knowledge. That's hmm very MAGA thing to say and feels like it's hurting the American pride more than the actual N word issue So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,214 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, River said: That's hmm very MAGA thing to say and feels like it's hurting the American pride more than the actual N word issue N word use in this isn’t the issue. They didn’t have the knowledge to know it’s bad in the US. The issue is that instead of acknowledging and moving on, people are DEFENDING. I wonder if people know they don’t NEED to defend everything. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,373 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Morphine Prince said: N word use in this isn’t the issue. They didn’t have the knowledge to know it’s bad in the US. The issue is that instead of acknowledging and moving on, people are DEFENDING. I wonder if people know they don’t NEED to defend everything. I get that, I just think that everything is coming as off right now with anything US since Trump is violently imposing the MAGA "ideals" on the rest of the world. so all these people are defending their countries and cultures from anything US right now. people just had enough to hear about how they need to follow the American way and how America is great So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilwood 4,213 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) Here in Brazil I have to remind my students all the time that they can't say it or that they need to skip the word on songs. The word has a different weight on other countries because we don't hear people assaulting other people with the word. They hear it all the time only in songs and they think it's ok and just part of the hip hop swag. They think it's like "bro". I always have to teach them the meaning of the word and compare it with the Brazilian term for 🚬 that has a similar status of being ok to say by some people and not others. Edited March 31 by Brazilwood Paubrasilia echinata 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,214 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, River said: I get that, I just think that everything is coming as off right now with anything US since Trump is violently imposing the MAGA "ideals" on the rest of the world. so all these people are defending their countries and cultures from anything US right now. people just had enough to hear about how they need to follow the American way and how America is great Irrational nationalism used to fight irrational nationalism… we are fried lol. This has nothing to do with the US imposing its ways on the world. Nobody is saying they need to be cancelled. It’s just interesting to me that a genre that borrow heavily from Black American Hip-Hop culture doesn’t seem to take the care to learn cultural norms of said genre they make millions from. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilwood 4,213 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Irrational nationalism used to fight irrational nationalism… we are fried lol. This has nothing to do with the US imposing its ways on the world. Nobody is saying they need to be cancelled. It’s just interesting to me that a genre that borrow heavily from Black American Hip-Hop culture doesn’t seem to take the care to learn cultural norms of said genre they make millions from. They don't take that care with research cause they target hip hop just because it's one of the best selling genres. Not because they love it and revere it. It's not a homage. It's capitalism. Edited March 31 by Brazilwood Paubrasilia echinata 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,373 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Morphine Prince said: Irrational nationalism used to fight irrational nationalism… we are fried lol. This has nothing to do with the US imposing its ways on the world. Nobody is saying they need to be cancelled. It’s just interesting to me that a genre that borrow heavily from Black American Hip-Hop culture doesn’t seem to take the care to learn cultural norms of said genre they make millions from. the majority of people who's not American or part of stan culture learns the real meaning of the N word very late in their lives, or even not all usually it's because they don't know English well, they don't know the american history well enough and many other reasons. Like in Europe everything is dubbed, so they may be consuming US media, but it's in their language, so many derogatory words are simply translate them in their own language. I think it's hip hop artists' job to teach folks outside of the US about the word and not expect them to learn it by themselves, because they won't, people simply don't care enough to do that. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,722 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 knowing YG Entertainment, they were probably forced to sing every lyric 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 5,318 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I wasn't wrong when I chose Jisoo as my fave from that group back in 2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyriverz 2,612 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Pandauralife said: It sounds like a lot of y'all probably would've voted for Tr*mp... girl I would vote the US out of the planet first chance LMAO people saying n*gga is a matter of context and situation. singing it in a song being a foreigner who don't really know english and is only doing it for fun.. I don't see how that contributes direct or indirectly to racism anywhere. using it constantly when you're a non black/POC with other people, I'd say problematic, or suspicious to say the least. using it as a slur to offend a person, a group of people or all black/POC, jail. and get that I'm saying those things as a brazilian white-ish gay man who lives in the most discriminated region of the country (northeast) in a state with a percentage of 80% of black people living here, the highest among all of our territory. so calling eachother here "negão", "preto", "nega", "negada", "neguinho", "meu nego", "meu preto", "minha nega", and so many other vocatives that relate to being black, even if the person you're addressing to is the palest albino on earth, is as usual as americans believing the world resumes to their culture, politics and systems. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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