DWAS always meant for mayhem

[PartySick 150,607]

It wasn't

It was Bruno's song that he approached Gaga to finish together and they released it as a standalone single.

The only reason it hit Mayhem is 'cause it streamed well which is why I hate that song as it represents everything that's wrong with artists chasing charts rather than putting out good music.

Well, that and the fact that it's one of her most trite pieces of work  

[River 110,147]

  19 hours ago, PartySick said:

It wasn't

It was Bruno's song that he approached Gaga to finish together and they released it as a standalone single.

The only reason it hit Mayhem is 'cause it streamed well which is why I hate that song as it represents everything that's wrong with artists chasing charts rather than putting out good music.

Well, that and the fact that it's one of her most trite pieces of work  

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I mean even PI is Kevin’s song and Sine is Elton’s song.

She can chase charts and still release good music, which she did.

Mayhem would have been #1 first week with or without DWAS..

 

[BlackJudas 129]

  19 hours ago, PartySick said:

It wasn't

It was Bruno's song that he approached Gaga to finish together and they released it as a standalone single.

The only reason it hit Mayhem is 'cause it streamed well which is why I hate that song as it represents everything that's wrong with artists chasing charts rather than putting out good music.

Well, that and the fact that it's one of her most trite pieces of work  

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Exactly. The song is credited as a Bruno record and was only added to the album due to the success of it. If that song didn't do well on the charts, I guarantee it wouldn't have been on the album.

Gaga herself even confirmed it wasn't for the album and was a standalone single.

[Windowlicker 3,300]

  22 hours ago, RichAssPiss said:

It's the physicals for me. 

If it were really added last minute, it wouldn't be pressed on vinyl. There's a lead time to these things. It's why Cowboy Carter had a different early vinyl release and Pink Friday 2 on vinyl was only 10 tracks. Everything about Mayhem feels considered and not rushed.

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The lead time on vinyl is roughly only about 1-2 months now. DWAS was already part of the track list by the end of last year when it proved to be a hit, per the LA Times interview from December where she confirmed it would be.

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  22 hours ago, AyeshaErotica said:

On Reddit they say DWAS, Medicine and Abra were a test: They looked at the chart positions and based upon their success, they determined how the rest of the album should be. Initially, they expected Abra to score higher and the album originally included more dark industrial songs like Abra. When DWAS turned out to be the most successful single, and Medicine and Abra rather underperforming (although imo they are much better than DWAS), they changed the tracklist and replaced dark industrial songs with more light, mainstream-friendly songs, more similair to DWAS since they had circa 50 of them. So DWAS was always meant as a test and Bruno Mars had the biggest impact on Mayhem.

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This breaks my heart They took out those songs and replaced a taylor swift theme song? 

Abra was absolutely everywhere & everyone knew it just like back in her 2011 era. This makes no sense  

[River 110,147]

  19 hours ago, BlackJudas said:

Exactly. The song is credited as a Bruno record and was only added to the album due to the success of it. If that song didn't do well on the charts, I guarantee it wouldn't have been on the album.

Gaga herself even confirmed it wasn't for the album and was a standalone single.

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It was credited Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars Since the beginning

[elijahfan 25,531]

  21 hours ago, Jessica Germ said:

Plus it goes in so seamlessly… might as well. It’s her damn song

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I agree, I think it's a much more satisfying closer than Blade of Grass.

[TheMontebello 179]

  22 hours ago, FATCAT said:

I think it was apart of the same sessions but she said somewhere that DWAS replaced a ballad that was already destined for the album and she'd hopefully have a chance to share it at some point. (maybe the tour?)

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Great, now I'm gonna stay curious about a song she's never going to release. I should be used to it at this point.

[TheMontebello 179]

  22 hours ago, AyeshaErotica said:

On Reddit they say DWAS, Medicine and Abra were a test: They looked at the chart positions and based upon their success, they determined how the rest of the album should be. Initially, they expected Abra to score higher and the album originally included more dark industrial songs like Abra. When DWAS turned out to be the most successful single, and Medicine and Abra rather underperforming (although imo they are much better than DWAS), they changed the tracklist and replaced dark industrial songs with more light, mainstream-friendly songs, more similair to DWAS since they had circa 50 of them. So DWAS was always meant as a test and Bruno Mars had the biggest impact on Mayhem.

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There is no way they decided the tracklist after releasing and waiting for the reception of Abracadabra. She spent months talking about how it's called Mayhem because the album had many different genres and did a 180 after the first few songs. Anything else is fanfiction.

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I mean come on! Do you guys think there would be enough time to do huge changes in one month between Abracadabra and Mayhem's release?

[PartySick 150,607]

  19 hours ago, River said:

I mean even PI is Kevin’s song and Sine is Elton’s song.

She can chase charts and still release good music, which she did.

Mayhem would have been #1 first week with or without DWAS..

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PI and Sine weren't added to Joanne and Chromatica respectively in an effort to chase charts and sales

I'm fine with collaborative efforts, she could have just made a saccharine song that I didn't care for no problem, but the second it was added to the album despite it being a standalone single until it started to chart well that's when several buttons were pressed for me

I don't like seeing Gaga making decisions to chase sales. She's already one of the best selling artists in history, a combined $1 billion+ household with her an her fiance, there's no reason to be changing up albums to make them sell better. 

You said it yourself, Mayhem would have gone #1 without the shameless chart grab. I'd rather the album sit with Abracadabra (a top 20 hit, right?) as it's highest peak than to retroactively add the hit that Bruno started writing just to snatch at the sales  

I will die on this hill and Gaga herself agrees on some level 'cause she keeps referring to Disease as the lead.

Which it was.

'Cause DWAS has nothing to do with Mayhem other than an injection of streams.

[PartySick 150,607]

  19 hours ago, BlackJudas said:

Gaga herself even confirmed it wasn't for the album and was a standalone single.

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It's been said numerous times and she even still refers to Disease as the lead so I'm not sure why anyone is arguing against the fact that DWAS' only purpose on the album is to help the album's numbers look better

[River 110,147]

  18 hours ago, PartySick said:

PI and Sine weren't added to Joanne and Chromatica respectively in an effort to chase charts and sales

I'm fine with collaborative efforts, she could have just made a saccharine song that I didn't care for no problem, but the second it was added to the album despite it being a standalone single until it started to chart well that's when several buttons were pressed for me

I don't like seeing Gaga making decisions to chase sales. She's already one of the best selling artists in history, a combined $1 billion+ household with her an her fiance, there's no reason to be changing up albums to make them sell better. 

You said it yourself, Mayhem would have gone #1 without the shameless chart grab. I'd rather the album sit with Abracadabra (a top 20 hit, right?) as it's highest peak than to retroactively add the hit that Bruno started writing just to snatch at the sales  

I will die on this hill and Gaga herself agrees on some level 'cause she keeps referring to Disease as the lead.

Which it was.

'Cause DWAS has nothing to do with Mayhem other than an injection of streams.

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Disease is the first single to kick off the era, DWAS is still a standalone single, off era, it doesn't mean it can't be on the album, like if it was a song from a soundtrack that has been added last minute to an album.

And she always made decision to chase sales, Venus was supposed to be the 2nd single, but then DWUW was getting a lot of buzz so they changed it last minute.

She's not an indie artist, she was always and will always be (along with any other mainstream singer) a commercial capitalistic product and will always chase sale.. it's all part of the big marketing plan.

Sabrina Carpet's Espresso was supposed to be a buzz single, it was not supposed to be added to album, but they added it last minute.

It's just one example out of many.

Actually, DWAS is the darkest song on the album, it's literally about the end of the world

[Anderson123 37,056]

  19 hours ago, BlackJudas said:

Exactly. The song is credited as a Bruno record and was only added to the album due to the success of it. If that song didn't do well on the charts, I guarantee it wouldn't have been on the album.

Gaga herself even confirmed it wasn't for the album and was a standalone single.

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The song is credited as Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars AND released under Gaga’s record label Interscope. It seems that from the start Bruno never intended to use it for an album. 

[chromaticainmyhead 6,520]

I preferred if DWAS wasn't on the album honestly.

There is no way this would have been the case but just for the cohesiveness of the album I believe the whole record makes more sense without it. That narrative about it being sort of a 'warm hug at the end' is sweet but it sounds more like an PR fabricated excuse to add it and make something look more polished (because of its incredible success that should have been a standalone as it was meant to be originally) on an album that is in its core meant to not make sense - as the album name states. But I get it and there is things more important on this planet.

 

I guess how the album keeps being polarizing is a testimony to its quality and what it wants to say. 

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  22 hours ago, FATCAT said:

I think it was apart of the same sessions but she said somewhere that DWAS replaced a ballad that was already destined for the album and she'd hopefully have a chance to share it at some point. (maybe the tour?)

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She never said that she "replaced something with DWAS", that's just a fan theory... 

She only mentioned that she has a song that didn't make it to the album, but might release it at some point