Zombieboy is a tribute to Rick Genest

[Debithius 5,777]

So I am not sure how well known this is but I read that Zombieboy is a tribue to Rick Genest from the BTW video. The bridge hits different now that I know about it.

 

I don't want you to stay (Don't want you to stay)
But I can't watch you walk away (Watch you walk away)
I'll think about you in my dreams (See you in my dreams)
You're better off a fantasy (My fantasy, my fantasy)
Fantasy (My fantasy, my fantasy)
Goodbye, I'll see you in my dreams

 

So she understands why he wants to cross over and has come to terms with it, but she can't bear to watch him fade away forever. Instead she chooses to keep him alive in her dreams and fantasy.

 

Edit: It seems to be true. https://www.capitalfm.com/news/music/lady-gaga-zombieboy-lyrics-meaning-rick-genest-who/

 

She confirmed it in the rolling Stones interview.

Edited 12 hours ago by Debithius

[darkgaga 4,100]

I think she said so in one of the interviews last week right?

[OliviaRodrigoStan 4,854]

I mean, it's a very horny song about lusting over a man in a relationship, it would be odd if it was... . I think the lines about him leaving, are more about her understanding that the guy in question is trouble, and she's better off not engaging with him. 

But who knows. Until she herself explains the song, we can never know for sure. 

[tigerteeth 656]

6 minutes ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

I mean, it's a very horny song about lusting over a man in a relationship, it would be odd if it was... . I think the lines about him leaving, are more about her understanding that the guy in question is trouble, and she's better off not engaging with him. 

But who knows. Until she herself explains the song, we can never know for sure. 

Where did you get the ‘guy in a relationship’ part from?

[vmpiregrn 377]

12 minutes ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

I mean, it's a very horny song about lusting over a man in a relationship, it would be odd if it was... . I think the lines about him leaving, are more about her understanding that the guy in question is trouble, and she's better off not engaging with him. 

But who knows. Until she herself explains the song, we can never know for sure. 

He allegedly died by falling off a balcony while drunk, I think we get the idea that he was a bit of a party guy throughout his brief life. Fun-loving, life of the party, stay up til sunrise type of dude, which was fitting given his tattoos and ZombieBoy persona. I think the song is just a playful ode to his essence and lifestyle and concocts a little story around it. Just because Gaga’s singing in first person doesn’t mean she is literally the narrator lusting over him. I think it’s more playful than that. Just my opinion

Edited 15 hours ago by vmpiregrn

[vmpiregrn 377]

4 minutes ago, tigerteeth said:

Where did you get the ‘guy in a relationship’ part from?

“Your girlfriend isn’t here”

If you see my reply above I disagree that it would be inherently weird for the song to be an ode to him. But that’s where the “guy in a relationship” bit comes in

[tigerteeth 656]

4 minutes ago, vmpiregrn said:

“Your girlfriend isn’t here”

If you see my reply above I disagree that it would be inherently weird for the song to be an ode to him. But that’s where the “guy in a relationship” bit comes in

Oh right, I totally blanked on that, sorry 

[OliviaRodrigoStan 4,854]

8 minutes ago, vmpiregrn said:

He allegedly died by falling off a balcony while drunk, I think we get the idea that he was a bit of a party guy throughout his brief life. Fun-loving, life of the party, stay up til sunrise type of dude, which was fitting given his tattoos and ZombieBoy persona. I think the song is just a playful ode to his essence and lifestyle and concocts a little story around it. Just because Gaga’s singing in first person doesn’t mean she is literally the narrator lusting over him. I think it’s more playful than that. Just my opinion

It still would be odd, IMO. A while ago a model here in Argentina passed away in her bathtub, and a local artist made a song about her, as a tribute, and it focused so much on her physical appearance, and how beautiful she was; it felt like he was fetishizing her . Like, dude, didn't she had ANY other trait as a human that you could think of, besides being pretty? . 

It gave me the ick a little bit TBH . If "Zombieboy" is meant to be a playful tribute to him, I mean, she's the one who knew him IRL, not me, maybe he would have loved this kind of tribute? IDK, I still feel weird about it. 

He literally died the same way Liam Payne did, if someone made a tribute song to Liam, that's like: "I can see your pants are on fire, I know you want this 🐱 😏", I'd be like NNNNNNNNNNNNN, gurl, maybe not . But like I said, she knew him, I don't. Maybe it is a song that he would've loved, regardless of whether or not it gives me the ick, IDK 

[Ziggy 11,041]

38 minutes ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

It still would be odd, IMO. A while ago a model here in Argentina passed away in her bathtub, and a local artist made a song about her, as a tribute, and it focused so much on her physical appearance, and how beautiful she was; it felt like he was fetishizing her . Like, dude, didn't she had ANY other trait as a human that you could think of, besides being pretty? . 

It gave me the ick a little bit TBH . If "Zombieboy" is meant to be a playful tribute to him, I mean, she's the one who knew him IRL, not me, maybe he would have loved this kind of tribute? IDK, I still feel weird about it. 

He literally died the same way Liam Payne did, if someone made a tribute song to Liam, that's like: "I can see your pants are on fire, I know you want this 🐱 😏", I'd be like NNNNNNNNNNNNN, gurl, maybe not . But like I said, she knew him, I don't. Maybe it is a song that he would've loved, regardless of whether or not it gives me the ick, IDK 

I think a liiiiiittle different than Liam bc in this person’s theory she’s speaking more to the essence and character of zombie boy not Rick himself. 

[Zombiecat 14,929]

1 hour ago, darkgaga said:

I think she said so in one of the interviews last week right?

has she actually? can someone tell  me what she said?  im not up to date with them all

Edited 14 hours ago by Zombiecat

[Borisapillar 8,600]

1 hour ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

I mean, it's a very horny song about lusting over a man in a relationship, it would be odd if it was... . I think the lines about him leaving, are more about her understanding that the guy in question is trouble, and she's better off not engaging with him. 

But who knows. Until she herself explains the song, we can never know for sure. 

Have you heard Speechless?

[Debithius 5,777]

1 hour ago, Zombiecat said:

has she actually? can someone tell  me what she said?  im not up to date with them all

The Guardian wrote about it if you search for it.

[Debithius 5,777]

1 hour ago, Zombiecat said:

has she actually? can someone tell  me what she said?  im not up to date with them all

https://www.capitalfm.com/news/music/lady-gaga-zombieboy-lyrics-meaning-rick-genest-who/

Edited 13 hours ago by Debithius

[Zombiecat 14,929]

8 minutes ago, Debithius said:

The Guardian wrote about it if you search for it.

yeah but there's multiple people/places/things saying that and a lot of them got it from before the album was released from fans assuming that, has she actually said it herself lmao?

i can't watch all her new interviews rn that's why i'm asking

 

edit:

Edited 13 hours ago by Zombiecat

[Zombiecat 14,929]

3 minutes ago, Debithius said:

https://www.capitalfm.com/news/music/lady-gaga-zombieboy-lyrics-meaning-rick-genest-who/

omg ok thank you! Idk how i missed her saying that