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My baseless theory is that the album was edgier originally (eg. Rain On Me demo with Boys Noize production, Babylon demo, Free Woman demo) but then the label said "no." and BloodPop had to sand down the edges

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Celloo Deng

This same cycle happens on GGD every time a new album comes out, the previous one gets a lashing for whatever reason

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All things considered, Chromatica is a decent album and Gaga did very well to input what she could to its creation at a difficult time for her. Bloodpop isn’t my favourite producer by far but he made it a cohesive and fun album overall

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On 3/10/2025 at 3:11 AM, HelloHangoverz said:

There's a thread on this topic every second day. Meanwhile Katy Perry is still active in this industry. Priorities 

I heard that video on x. Meanwhile all tracks except Babylon are better on the final version. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Still thom..

Stop acting like it was a super album destroyed by BoodPop. It was only Alice, Replay, Enigma n Babylon.

We have now a way better.

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On 3/9/2025 at 9:05 PM, Dayman said:

Her showing Blood what she was working on and him ripping into it and saying it was bad and inauthentic and making her cry before starting the work on Chromatica. It just overall did not seem like a great process from what we do know…

Where did this come from?! 😭

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culturalbaptism
5 hours ago, Kim Petrus said:

She mentions it at 19m08

saying she’s very proud of it even if she wasn’t really connected to reality at the time

I mean she’s proud of Joanne so we can’t trust her :traumatica:

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djBuffoon

I have absolutely no issue with how Chromatica was produced. Some of the songwriting wasn't up to Gaga's best ("Plastic Doll", "Free Woman") but the sound was immaculate.

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nATAH
1 hour ago, culturalbaptism said:

I mean she’s proud of Joanne so we can’t trust her :traumatica:

girl just stop, you're being hateful for no good reason

mother, what must i do?
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culturalbaptism
2 minutes ago, nATAH said:

girl just stop, you're being hateful for no good reason

I’m not! I just want the best for her and clearly a organized team and someone pushing her to her artistic direction is the way to go. We miss the fun in her albums and it finally shows with Mayhem.

Judas is coming. Let the cultural baptism begin.
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nATAH
2 minutes ago, culturalbaptism said:

I’m not! I just want the best for her and clearly a organized team and someone pushing her to her artistic direction is the way to go. We miss the fun in her albums and it finally shows with Mayhem.

those albums are fun, you just don't enjoy those genres

that doesn’t justify hateful threads and comments about them

mother, what must i do?
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culturalbaptism
1 minute ago, nATAH said:

those albums are fun, you just don't enjoy those genres

that doesn’t justify hateful threads and comments about them

Gaga was not in a good headspace during Chromatica. I can’t think of a single fun song in the album. Hopeful yes, sexy, angry etc but playful I can’t think at the top of my head.

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3 minutes ago, culturalbaptism said:

Gaga was not in a good headspace during Chromatica. I can’t think of a single fun song in the album. Hopeful yes, sexy, angry etc but playful I can’t think at the top of my head.

stupid love, rain on me, free woman

if you don't find those songs fun then that's your own issue, they are objectively fun and people have fun dancing to them

mother, what must i do?
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On 3/10/2025 at 3:34 AM, culturalbaptism said:

I’m sorry if I hit some nerves with the truth. Let me put it in another way: BloodPop did not have Gaga’s best interests at heart or didn’t know her best interests or chose what was best to get a hit. Azealia said herself with Mayhem she said what she wanted to say and not what people wished she would say. That’s the lack in Chromatica, it was trying to be this “pop comeback”.

Now Michael had Gaga’s interests at heart and even convinced her to not let the album be linear but diverse.

Put me on the cross like Jesus, I’m so ready to die in this hill.

Oh my god, this has to be the most misogynistic post on this entire forum. Saying that Gaga now has the right man to tell her what kind of music to make is downright idiotic.

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On 3/10/2025 at 8:26 AM, MadArchitect said:

So is he a yes man who just approves anything gaga says and lets her do whatever bullshit she wants without questioning, or is he an evil controlling producer who's gaga let make whatever he wanted cause she was not in the right mental space to make decisions on her own? lmao pick a side, you don't see your contradictions and its just too funny...

I see it as at the end of the day it was never gonna be exactly what it “could” have been bc it truly couldn’t have been more given where she was at the time. That’s it. Yeah the demos had harder sounds. The songs were worse though let’s be so honest with ourselves and Gaga is even admitting as much now. It’s the best she could have done.

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