StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Economy said: When did she finally acknowledge it as the lead? When she said it was a core part of Mayhem. It’s just not a standalone single anymore. Y’all cant argue it’s the 0th single now… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,960 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, StarstruckIllusion said: When she said it was a core part of Mayhem. It’s just not a standalone single anymore. Y’all cant argue it’s the 0th single now… Chill. Im not arguing against it or calling it 0th single. I think it makes perfect sense Im literally just asking when did Gaga acknowledge it cuz i never heard her call it the lead. Thats all im asking 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,444 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It's ridiculous, I keep an eye on the Wikipedia edits because I loathe Wikipedia editors and love drama and they're always bickering about the most obvious things. Die with a Smile is obviously not the lead single, because Disease was actively labelled (by both Gaga and numerous publications) as the lead single. You can't have two lead singles released two months apart. It's just as infuriating as the confusion on Wikipedia about whether the jazz albums count or not. They count The Fame Monster as an EP, so consider Cheek to Cheek to be LG4 and Love for Sale to be LG7, despite listing both of them separately from her other studio albums under the 'collaborative album' label. So they contradict themselves on whether or not they're part of her main line album chronology. Wikipedia's supposed to be informative, and the fact that they list Mayhem as her eighth album because it tEcHnIcaLlY isn't her seventh album just makes it more confusing considering literally every other person on earth who knows about the album considers it to be her seventh. Just as nobody considers tacked-on bonus tracks released separately beforehand to be lead singles. Sorry, I know this reads as an insane, deranged coke-rant but man, I've been bottling this up, I was just too lazy to create a new post for it 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,285 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) The first song from an album that get released as a single is, by definition, the album's lead single. Even if it wasn't even intended to be in it back then, it's finally one of the singles and the first one we got from Mayhem so it's its lead single indeed. Not the scheduled lead but the final one. 😆 Edited January 30 by Guillaume Hamon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Economy said: Chill. Im not arguing against it or calling it 0th single. I think it makes perfect sense Im literally just asking when did Gaga acknowledge it cuz i never heard her call it the lead. Thats all im asking Well she technically didn’t - altho that same outlet that revealed the Grammy debut called it her third single - but she doesn’t need to because yeah it just makes sense Disease is absolutely amazing but yeah I’m fine with it being a second single like idc if it’d bc DWAS smashed She believes it fits so that’s that… although watch fans soon push a narrative it doesn’t fit the album at all even though they tolerate Speechless Dope and You and I on their respective albums Edited January 30 by StarstruckIllusion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, LOVEDRUG said: It's ridiculous, I keep an eye on the Wikipedia edits because I loathe Wikipedia editors and love drama and they're always bickering about the most obvious things. Die with a Smile is obviously not the lead single, because Disease was actively labelled (by both Gaga and numerous publications) as the lead single. You can't have two lead singles released two months apart. It's just as infuriating as the confusion on Wikipedia about whether the jazz albums count or not. They count The Fame Monster as an EP, so consider Cheek to Cheek to be LG4 and Love for Sale to be LG7, despite listing both of them separately from her other studio albums under the 'collaborative album' label. So they contradict themselves on whether or not they're part of her main line album chronology. Wikipedia's supposed to be informative, and the fact that they list Mayhem as her eighth album because it tEcHnIcaLlY isn't her seventh album just makes it more confusing considering literally every other person on earth who knows about the album considers it to be her seventh. Just as nobody considers tacked-on bonus tracks released separately beforehand to be lead singles. Sorry, I know this reads as an insane, deranged coke-rant but man, I've been bottling this up, I was just too lazy to create a new post for it No pop off. Harlequin’s intro section on its own Wikipedia page doesn’t even call itself her seventh album - as it shouldn’t as it’s 90% covers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin_(Lady_Gaga_album) It’s a mixtape 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,663 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 'Lead' means primary. In this case, Disease was the primary choice that kicked off the era. It had the significance of a lead single. Die With A Smile came first, sure, but it was an afterthought, and did not serve to introduce us to the Mayhem era. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murakami27 3,834 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Disease - Lead DWAS - Pre-lead single Abracadabra - Post-lead single Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,444 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, StarstruckIllusion said: No pop off. Harlequin’s intro section on its own Wikipedia page doesn’t even call itself her seventh album - as it shouldn’t as it’s 90% covers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin_(Lady_Gaga_album) It’s a mixtape I couldn't agree more. Almost as frustrating as the arguments about whether or not Harlequin is a soundtrack album, despite it literally including none of the songs from the film. It's a companion piece. Under that definition she could release an album of Mongolian throat singing, vaguely at the same time as Joker's release, and it would be considered an accompanying soundtrack to the film. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,444 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Bradley said: 'Lead' means primary. In this case, Disease was the primary choice that kicked off the era. It had the significance of a lead single. Die With A Smile came first, sure, but it was an afterthought, and did not serve to introduce us to the Mayhem era. Thank you. Die with a Smile wasn't released, promoted or advertised as a single from Mayhem. It seems utterly baffling to even consider it a single from the album and not a single that was included as a bonus addition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboboy 3,751 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, StarstruckIllusion said: The fan-driven studious editor’s of Gaga’s Wikipedia entries are at WAR They cannot collectively decide whether Die With A Smile should be officially certified as the lead single or not. The page got locked and the girls are fighting!! Currently they’re erasing Smash with a Smile as a single all together despite Gaga and many outlets saying it’s the lead. ⭐️ They’re also fighting over whether Mayhem is her 7th studio album. They’re calling it her 8th and idk why 😭 It’s an injustice!! gaga never called it the lead I don't know why u guys say this LMFAO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Axel 790 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I've been back & forth myself about DWAS being the lead, but I think it's justifiable that it's NOT Mayhem's lead since she released Harlequin in between DWAS and Disease, calling Harlequin LG6.5 herself - Also there's been many examples of artists including originally one-off song and/or songs from soundtracks on studio albums in the past, just cuz this is the first time for Gaga it's causing so much confusion lol ʟɪᴠɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ɢᴏʟᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴅʀᴇᴀᴍ ϟ†▽✰𝒿 ~Ɐ 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,514 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I love this kind of low-stakes drama... so wholesome just donated $3 to Wikipedia 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,444 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, LaLa said: I love this kind of low-stakes drama... so wholesome just donated $3 to Wikipedia I don't know what you're calling low-stakes, I'm currently seething 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTea 5,480 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 56 minutes ago, Jill said: Wikipedia has Harlequin listed as LG7 for obvious reasons. Harlequin is Gaga's seventh album while Mayhem is her eighth. Harlequin is obviously not LG7, it falls to the same category as C2C, L4S and ASIB (and Top Gun/Joker2 OST)... All jazzy covers from the movie OST and one original song that fits the theme like Hold My Hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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