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It’s definitely a marketing/business strategy for numbers. Even ahead of the album DWAS seems like a standalone era and it should have stayed that way. It should simply be a Bonus Track/Deluxe Track rather than replacing a new song. It also seems like LG7 was completed ahead of the release of DWAS so adding it now sounds a little cheap. Still a great song, it just didn’t need to be apart of the album if it will be replacing a full unheard track.

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2 hours ago, Economy said:

I dont get it. Its literally such a beautiful ballad. Not like shes adding some mediocre trash that happened to be commercially successful

 

I myself am glad its on the album!

Just speaking for myself here but I always value albums as full and complete projects. They're narratives or a family of songs that all belong together.

Being a huge stan of MJ practically from birth instilled that value within me 'cause his albums always told a story or the songs were impossible to separate from each other. His sister did it just as well as he did (maybe even better considering how often she did it).

As stated in the OP, DWAS is being put on LG7 purely for the sales. That alone compromises the vision of the album and makes it less of a cohesive project and more of a compilation of songs. Not talking genre, just thematically and spiritually.

Gaga's always had a cohesive narrative for every album.

The Fame and The Fame Monster are about the desires for and dark sides of the fame and the stereotypical Hollywood lifestyle.

Born This Way is about societal issues and how she, and the listener, fit into this world we've found ourselves within.

ARTPOP is about the world within her and us as listeners. From beginning to end it's about identity and experience, silly at times, dark at others, but all very personal.

Joanne is purely about her experiences and growth through life and pain. Who she was as a woman and who she's become as a woman.

Even Chromatica, though I sh*t on its production and lyricism, has a cohesive story of pain and struggle but also strength and healing.

LG7 will be the first core album of hers with a big fat blemish. Whatever the album's message is, DWAS will be on the tracklist to remind us that the woman (estimated to be) worth $300 million who is engaged to a billionaire made a decision to put that song there simply to boost the album's chart performance.

And that's incredibly disappointing from a fan standpoint but it also wrecks the album for me personally.

Most people don't have a problem with it, and that's cool, but I just can't help but think "what if MJ put Billie Jean on Dangerous to help it sell better even though that song had nothing to do with his altruistic message or musical style at the time? Or what if Janet put Rhythm Nation on The Velvet Rope to help it sell better even though it's a world anthem and TVR is extremely personal and almost isolated from the world?" Those albums wouldn't be nearly as pristine as they are. And LG7 won't be either. Just so she/they make more money from it.

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1 hour ago, GagaUnderYou said:

It’s definitely a marketing/business strategy for numbers. Even ahead of the album DWAS seems like a standalone era and it should have stayed that way. It should simply be a Bonus Track/Deluxe Track rather than replacing a new song. It also seems like LG7 was completed ahead of the release of DWAS so adding it now sounds a little cheap. Still a great song, it just didn’t need to be apart of the album if it will be replacing a full unheard track.

100% would have supported putting it on a deluxe or re-release like HMH found its way to some versions of Chromatica.

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Nothing about the album has changed except her adding DWAS. If it due in February then the album is already pressed and made ready to go. The song is probably added on at the end and they probably made that final decision a month or two ago. Unless we see the vinyl is different from the digital album and those physical copies don’t include it. 
 

if you’re mad at Gaga for adding on the song you have no idea how business and music management works. Why would they not add on her most successful song in years? Not our fault the GP loves her showing off her vocal chops. She’s multi talented and pleases many people for different reasons. That is her advantage compared to her peers. 
 

I almost want to guarantee her next album or project will be ballad singer songwriter oriented after all the success she’s had with it. 

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5 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Just speaking for myself here but I always value albums as full and complete projects. They're narratives or a family of songs that all belong together.

Being a huge stan of MJ practically from birth instilled that value within me 'cause his albums always told a story or the songs were impossible to separate from each other. His sister did it just as well as he did (maybe even better considering how often she did it).

As stated in the OP, DWAS is being put on LG7 purely for the sales. That alone compromises the vision of the album and makes it less of a cohesive project and more of a compilation of songs. Not talking genre, just thematically and spiritually.

Gaga's always had a cohesive narrative for every album.

The Fame and The Fame Monster are about the desires for and dark sides of the fame and the stereotypical Hollywood lifestyle.

Born This Way is about societal issues and how she, and the listener, fit into this world we've found ourselves within.

ARTPOP is about the world within her and us as listeners. From beginning to end it's about identity and experience, silly at times, dark at others, but all very personal.

Joanne is purely about her experiences and growth through life and pain. Who she was as a woman and who she's become as a woman.

Even Chromatica, though I sh*t on its production and lyricism, has a cohesive story of pain and struggle but also strength and healing.

LG7 will be the first core album of hers with a big fat blemish. Whatever the album's message is, DWAS will be on the tracklist to remind us that the woman (estimated to be) worth $300 million who is engaged to a billionaire made a decision to put that song there simply to boost the album's chart performance.

And that's incredibly disappointing from a fan standpoint but it also wrecks the album for me personally.

Most people don't have a problem with it, and that's cool, but I just can't help but think "what if MJ put Billie Jean on Dangerous to help it sell better even though that song had nothing to do with his altruistic message or musical style at the time? Or what if Janet put Rhythm Nation on The Velvet Rope to help it sell better even though it's a world anthem and TVR is extremely personal and almost isolated from the world?" Those albums wouldn't be nearly as pristine as they are. And LG7 won't be either. Just so she/they make more money from it.

there's no reason to believe that DWAS doesn't fit into everything else she has been working on in the same time frame

looking into her old albums like that doesn't make sense because not every song in every album was necesarily even written to fit the albums "message" a lot of it gets twisted to fit in after.. I mean we know telephone was written and pitched to britney, it wasnt even written to specifically fit in with the fame monster 

i dont see the diffetrence between multiple songs on Gaga albums and DWAS

I mean what has brown eyes got to do with the fame? Even speechless wouldn't make sense with TFM unless we are specically told how afterwards. 

Just because DWAS wasn't originally intended to be on the album doesn't mean it can't harmlessly fit in in a way that can make sense

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Just now, Catnikko said:

Just because DWAS wasn't originally intended to be on the album doesn't mean it can't harmlessly fit in in a way that can make sense

It means exactly that in my eyes :shrug:

"Outliers" in other albums can be tied in loosely but they still spiritually belong. TF/TFM aren't the greatest examples of her ability to write cohesive albums which is probably why I didn't even become a stan until 2013. It's something that's incredibly important to me in the artists I decide to spend the most time with.

DWAS is meant to be a standalone single, it'll never feel right on LG7, especially with such shallow and greedy reasons for slapping it on the tracklist.

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12 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Just speaking for myself here but I always value albums as full and complete projects. They're narratives or a family of songs that all belong together.

Being a huge stan of MJ practically from birth instilled that value within me 'cause his albums always told a story or the songs were impossible to separate from each other. His sister did it just as well as he did (maybe even better considering how often she did it).

As stated in the OP, DWAS is being put on LG7 purely for the sales. That alone compromises the vision of the album and makes it less of a cohesive project and more of a compilation of songs. Not talking genre, just thematically and spiritually.

Gaga's always had a cohesive narrative for every album.

The Fame and The Fame Monster are about the desires for and dark sides of the fame and the stereotypical Hollywood lifestyle.

Born This Way is about societal issues and how she, and the listener, fit into this world we've found ourselves within.

ARTPOP is about the world within her and us as listeners. From beginning to end it's about identity and experience, silly at times, dark at others, but all very personal.

Joanne is purely about her experiences and growth through life and pain. Who she was as a woman and who she's become as a woman.

Even Chromatica, though I sh*t on its production and lyricism, has a cohesive story of pain and struggle but also strength and healing.

LG7 will be the first core album of hers with a big fat blemish. Whatever the album's message is, DWAS will be on the tracklist to remind us that the woman (estimated to be) worth $300 million who is engaged to a billionaire made a decision to put that song there simply to boost the album's chart performance.

And that's incredibly disappointing from a fan standpoint but it also wrecks the album for me personally.

Most people don't have a problem with it, and that's cool, but I just can't help but think "what if MJ put Billie Jean on Dangerous to help it sell better even though that song had nothing to do with his altruistic message or musical style at the time? Or what if Janet put Rhythm Nation on The Velvet Rope to help it sell better even though it's a world anthem and TVR is extremely personal and almost isolated from the world?" Those albums wouldn't be nearly as pristine as they are. And LG7 won't be either. Just so she/they make more money from it.

I’m sorry but you/we still don’t know what LG7 is about yet and you’re saying DWAS is a blemish on it lmao. Comparing MJ and 80s music business to today doesn’t work because they are so insanely different. In this day and age 100% those 80s pop stars would be doing similar things. A lot of Gaga’s albums have many different ventures on them and that doesn’t make her cheap. Born this way is my favorite album of all time and there are so many sounds and genres on it, it almost doesn’t make any sense. Someone said above Scheiße and you and I are on born this way and there’s never been problem with it. 
 

I have not seen Gaga this passionate about music in over a decade, I trust her 100% with this project. She’s a musical genius and also a marketing genius, she knows what she’s doing to continue to build her legendary career. Her Bey and Taylor are in leagues of their own compared to all the past 10’s pop stars. 

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2 minutes ago, GreenEyes said:

Someone said above Scheiße and you and I are on born this way and there’s never been problem with it. 

The different genres aint the problem, the problem here is saying "I felt something was missing and it was DWAS so we decided to add it :blush:" when we all know its just to boost the album performance. 

She called it a standalone, said it wasnt part of the album and then it became a hit and it suddenly was the missing part of it? Girl we all see the lies in that :brat:

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4 minutes ago, GreenEyes said:

A lot of Gaga’s albums have many different ventures on them and that doesn’t make her cheap. Born this way is my favorite album of all time and there are so many sounds and genres on it, it almost doesn’t make any sense.

I specifically said it wasn't about genres and putting a standalone single on an album to give it an automatic streaming boost is cheap :icant: 

Idk how anyone could think we were talking about genres when praising albums that have songs like Aura and Dope or Joanne and Perfect Illusion.

As I said, the lady's worth $300 million and dating someone worth three times that amount, if not more. She flys around in a private jet and has a softball sized diamond on her finger. She lives in a freaking castle in Malibu. Every one of her albums has gone #1, there's no reason to doubt this one would too. 

This kind of decision is not one that needs to be made for her and idc how y'all twist yourselves into justifying it, it's a shameful decision and it's embarrassing after 15 years of celebrating success but creating for art. Now she's letting success drive her creative process, even if it's just for this one song (and I doubt it is), and that just ain't who I stanned :sleep: 

My novels make it seem like I'm going nuclear but I promise I'm not that passionate about this :icant: but as I said, it is something I care about deeply in regard to the artists I spend my time with. Clearly, I need to spend less time with Gaga, it's that simple.

I'm glad y'all are happy with this though, and I sincerely mean that :kiss: 

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CatelynnMarie

I’m really waiting for the album to release and to hear it in full before deciding if I feel it belongs or not. It feels, off as of right now for me personally because DWAS was proclaimed as being a standalone single with no ties to any project. Because it was labeled as such, the switch up to “it is absolutely on my album” has confused my brain. 

I am in a way disappointed it could be just tacked on (especially if we lose a brand new, entirely unheard song in favor of the hit), but at the same time, it’s a great song and depending on how it sounds while listening to the album front to back, it could flow nicely and really be an amazing listening experience. Time will tell. LG7 is almost here regardless, and I’m looking forward to what’s coming

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