I Guess Gaga Is Staying Silent On The Election

[Monstermilo 4,586]

its also weird considering kamala is the best shot weve had for the first female president. and a woman of color at that. this would be more monumental than obama becoming president (even tho i liked him more).

[hoeslay 4,183]

She’s stayed completely silent on Palestine so why should anyone be surprised?

 

still grappling with this and the woman who changed my life and inspired the activism within me (which is still faulty but still :/)

Edited October 24, 2024 by hoeslay

[River 117,133]

Gaga was out there, took risks, spoke out loud about human rights while u sit at home bitching about her being silence for once on gaga related forum

that’s the difference between activism and bitchism 

[abrahamidk 96]

i'm not from USA so forgive me if i'm wrong but, is celebrity endorsement like really decisive for you? I mean it's clear that she is not voting for trump but from what i read it seems like you want her to get vocal about it, even when her demographics are neither voting for cheeto. She's being political since the beginning of her career, her suddenly not speaking about elections and focusing on her job doesn't make her performative. 

[Mr Ricky 9,056]

4 minutes ago, River said:

Gaga was out there, took risks, spoke out loud about human rights while u sit at home bitching about her being silence for once on gaga related forum

that’s the difference between activism and bitchism 

Someone finally said it. Let this woman rest and do the activism yourself. I really don't understand people who really want a pop star to speak out about politics. Don't push someone into doing it, she has done it and you've experienced her devotion to what she's standing for. She doesn't need to replay her same actions. 
 

Stop asking/bitching so much from someone who has done more than any popstar could in the past decade. 

[PartySick 160,493]

3 hours ago, Togekiss said:

Hence Juggalos endorsing Kamala 

Right

Even ICP is out here working

[PartySick 160,493]

13 minutes ago, River said:

Gaga was out there, took risks, spoke out loud about human rights while u sit at home bitching about her being silence for once on gaga related forum

that’s the difference between activism and bitchism 

She still very much has a platform to use and a lot of us, like myself, are volunteering our time to go save this stupid country

If I can door knock, sign wave, and come face to face with potentially angry and violent Floridians then she can post a tweet or a 15 second video reaffirming everything she's stood for in her 15 year career and why it's all on the line on November 5th.

Like I said, I won't condemn her for it or anything but it just further pushes me away from "omg I stan her so much" to "yeah, I like her music and movies. She's cool"

Activism means nothing if it's not consistent. Especially when stakes are high. She was at her most outspoken when liberals controlled the country. Literal Nazis are threatening us and it's crickets? It's disappointing, idk.

[PartySick 160,493]

7 minutes ago, abrahamidk said:

i'm not from USA so forgive me if i'm wrong but, is celebrity endorsement like really decisive for you? I mean it's clear that she is not voting for trump but from what i read it seems like you want her to get vocal about it, even when her demographics are neither voting for cheeto. She's being political since the beginning of her career, her suddenly not speaking about elections and focusing on her job doesn't make her performative. 

It's not that it's decisive, nobody needs a celebrity to endorse a candidate to make a decision on who to vote for. It's about winning the media market.

Right now, people cannot stop talking about Obama rapping to Eminem after he opened a rally for him. That elevates Obama's stump speech and helps it reach a few more people. And in a race that's being run on the margins, a headline could be the difference between "eh, I hate Trump but I'm not gonna vote" and "yeah, I hate Trump, I have to vote".

Every voice matters and you would think Gaga would be more open to using her voice considering she's done it twice now. Once for Hillary Clinton and again for Joe Biden. Like, why is it different this time

[HelloHangoverz 17,450]

3 minutes ago, PartySick said:

She still very much has a platform to use and a lot of us, like myself, are volunteering our time to go save this stupid country

If I can door knock, sign wave, and come face to face with potentially angry and violent Floridians then she can post a tweet or a 15 second video reaffirming everything she's stood for in her 15 year career and why it's all on the line on November 5th.

Like I said, I won't condemn her for it or anything but it just further pushes me away from "omg I stan her so much" to "yeah, I like her music and movies. She's cool"

Activism means nothing if it's not consistent. Especially when stakes are high. She was at her most outspoken when liberals controlled the country. Literal Nazis are threatening us and it's crickets? It's disappointing, idk.

I think she believes that celebrity involvement in politics weakens local/everyday citizen participation in politics and people's motivations for wanting celebrity involvement are misguided. When everybody was saying "not even a pride post" during the Nurtec mini era (the real LG6.5 ) she made a post shortly afterwards talking about this book

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pursuit-Revolutionary-Love-Precarity-Communities/dp/173984310X/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?crid=3GL2NYJHKP8HX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wmzlKGHWPtDnVqJbFWIWlR5QCKq_i1Y14WVkcdpaJBXrhr8xDW2jIOUfQzHC6GbWX1yObxcWDLp4-cfFnHPTQ-T4FDv4ANCjjpMcsXDYQcs.A6OGOc8CRHepCpFyDM09pzm8YY_DRPfc-VL83IDfbGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=precarity+power+and+communities&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1729748684&sprefix=precarity+power+and+communitie%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-1-fkmr1

A short extract from the description:

Spoiler

Violence is arrayed against us because we’re Black, or female, or queer, or undocumented. There is no rescue team coming for us. With that knowledge, we need a different operational base to recreate the world. It is not going to be a celebrity savior. Never was, never will be. 

But there’s a beauty to facing the reality of our lives. Not our lives as they’re broken apart, written about, and then sold back to us in academic or celebrity discourse. But our lives as we understand them. The most important thing is showing up. Showing up and learning how to live by and with others, learning how to reinvent ourselves in this increasing wasteland. That’s the good life.

In other words: "What do you think an endorsement from me is going to achieve? It's bullshit, you want the impression that I did something, not necessarily the impact of what saying something would achieve, which is minimal. We all have to show up for each other. True change is grass roots"

 

 

[PartySick 160,493]

4 minutes ago, HelloHangoverz said:

I think she believes that celebrity involvement in politics weakens local/everyday citizen participation in politics and people's motivations for wanting celebrity involvement are misguided. When everybody was saying "not even a pride post" during the Nurtec mini era (the real LG6.5 ) she made a post shortly afterwards talking about this book

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pursuit-Revolutionary-Love-Precarity-Communities/dp/173984310X/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?crid=3GL2NYJHKP8HX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wmzlKGHWPtDnVqJbFWIWlR5QCKq_i1Y14WVkcdpaJBXrhr8xDW2jIOUfQzHC6GbWX1yObxcWDLp4-cfFnHPTQ-T4FDv4ANCjjpMcsXDYQcs.A6OGOc8CRHepCpFyDM09pzm8YY_DRPfc-VL83IDfbGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=precarity+power+and+communities&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1729748684&sprefix=precarity+power+and+communitie%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-1-fkmr1

A short extract from the description:

  Reveal hidden contents

Violence is arrayed against us because we’re Black, or female, or queer, or undocumented. There is no rescue team coming for us. With that knowledge, we need a different operational base to recreate the world. It is not going to be a celebrity savior. Never was, never will be. 

But there’s a beauty to facing the reality of our lives. Not our lives as they’re broken apart, written about, and then sold back to us in academic or celebrity discourse. But our lives as we understand them. The most important thing is showing up. Showing up and learning how to live by and with others, learning how to reinvent ourselves in this increasing wasteland. That’s the good life.

In other words: "What do you think an endorsement from me is going to achieve? It's bullshit, you want the impression that I did something, not necessarily the impact of what saying something would achieve, which is minimal. We all have to show up for each other. True change is grass roots"

 

 

I think her getting out there, maybe singing a song or two or giving a speech, wins a couple more votes for Kamala and gets a few more headlines. And that's a lot when we're literally aiming for the bare minimum of 270 EC votes.

Like, she's not powerless  and if she thought she was she wouldn't have campaigned for Clinton or Biden, she wouldn't have previously been outspoken against Trump, she wouldn't have made songs about unfair immigration laws or been so vocal and proactive about LGBTQ issues. She wouldn't have given her Insta over to BLM activists. She wouldn't have gone on a campaign about sexual assault survivors. She wouldn't be so open about her struggles with addiction and mental health.

It's just weird that she's suddenly absolutely silent and when so many of those issues are immediately at risk of becoming dangerously worse she's sitting at home.

I won't think less of her nor do I even care to really have a debate about it. Just saying it's incredibly d disappointing. You can't call yourself an activist and then just sit out THE most consequential election in US history when it relates to everything you say you care about. 

[River 117,133]

15 minutes ago, PartySick said:

She still very much has a platform to use and a lot of us, like myself, are volunteering our time to go save this stupid country

If I can door knock, sign wave, and come face to face with potentially angry and violent Floridians then she can post a tweet or a 15 second video reaffirming everything she's stood for in her 15 year career and why it's all on the line on November 5th.

Like I said, I won't condemn her for it or anything but it just further pushes me away from "omg I stan her so much" to "yeah, I like her music and movies. She's cool"

Activism means nothing if it's not consistent. Especially when stakes are high. She was at her most outspoken when liberals controlled the country. Literal Nazis are threatening us and it's crickets? It's disappointing, idk.

She's been burnt so much in the past, every time she said something in the last couple of years, everybody, especially her fans, overanalyzed every single word, judged her statements and were never happy with what she said, at the end she always ends being wrong, writing something or not, she will never make people happy, because everyone put her on a unreasonable pedestal and it's taking a lot from mentally, a lot.

I think it's the job of the people to volunteer, to be activists, to go door to door, ya'll are more at risk than a bunch of rich celebrities with the private jets, fancy cars and mansions, they will be fine with Trump in the adminestary, ya'll no. so it's your job to prevent it to be there, not a tweet by a celebrity.

It's kinda shocking how the american culture and american politics are so heavily relied on celebrities and it feels like without their voices, ya'll are lost lol

Activism is tough, especially when u have a lot to lose, I was a "consistence" activist since 14 years old until my late 20s, but it took so much from me, if it's my freedom (jail), my chances to find a job, my social life, my family, to the point that my only chance was to leave the country, and right now my activism is centered in Italy with my husband for LGBTQ+ rights and donation to Gaza and now Lebanon and that's pretty much it.

 

Also maybe.. she's not really agreeing with Kamala and her political point of view is more progressive? that's also an option.

 

Or just maybe Kamala's campaign asked celebrities not to endorse her, it's one strategy.

[Decodekid 28,266]

She’s endorsed Trump’s opponent twice in almost 10 years, she can take a sit and let someone else do it this time. It’s also great to have other artists join the fight, Gaga’s demographic is already voting Kamala, I’m sure others can make a bigger impact this time 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Decodekid

[erfaan 2,830]

She out of all celebrities is CLEARLY on the left. What more do you need. 

[Decodekid 28,266]

Lol I’m 100 % sure if by Monday she decides to endorse Kamala or do something related to US politics, she’ll be dragged here for stepping out of LG7 promotion 

[crackpoppodcast 1,531]

The people she would be able to reach by endorsing are already voting Harris.  And I’m sure her activism at a time of such divisiveness in our country has not been great for her mental health. We’ll likely get a voting reminder or something last minute, but it’s entirely clear who she would support.