RenegAde 18,025 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) Ramble alert Joker isn't getting the worldwide acclaim we hoped for and a lot people are worried about how Gaga is dealing with this but I don't think Gaga is too suprised by this. I feel She's seasoned,connected, and experienced enough to smell a post production/internal mess from afar. If some of us here could see the cracks early on then I'm sure she could too. If Gaga was confident in this project she would never schedule another solo project so soon after the movie drops. neither would she release an "accompanying" album before the movie release when the movie has a soundtrack of its own. Imagine her dropping music during ASIB rollout akin to die with a smile. She was completely invested in that and every appearance she made during that era except enigma was dedicated to promoting ASIB. I havnt seen the movie yet because I'm disappointed at the amount of screen time she has. and i don't care what anybody says, that was not only a stupid move but very deceptive promotion. I'm happy but not surprised that once again her acting is being praised despite a subpar script. They need to stop wasting this woman's talent. Bradley really deserves his flowers for knowing what was best for the movie and prioritizing that. Edited October 5 by RenegAde 49 1 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyjeddy 1,245 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Yep could make sense to why LG7 lead is being released this month - while she’s still promoting Harlequin and the movie - mama is doing come cleaning But in the cultural sense, I just speak in future tense 11 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 20,222 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I do think she did know. Well, one of the first things she publicly said about the film is that the script was not enough on its own. Not surprising she had to record Harlequin ´cause as she says, she wasn’t ready to let her character go. All that training and method acting for such a film at the end. Reminds me of when she shaded Ridley Scott during the HOG campaign, basically saying that great acting alone can’t save a film if the direction isn’t right, and that Ridley should have kept the scene where she makes out with Salma 21 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,025 Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, A Very Gaga Holida said: I do think she did know. Well, one of the first things she publicly said about the film is that the script was not enough on its own. Not surprising she had to record Harlequin ´cause as she says, she wasn’t ready to let her character go. All that training and method acting for such a film at the end. Reminds me of when she shaded Ridley Scott during the HOG campaign, basically saying that great acting alone can’t save a film if the direction isn’t right, and that Ridley should have kept the scene where she makes out with Salma I don't think we've heard the last of the internal mess that occurred during the course of making this movie. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 104,321 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 She knew about the changes in the script but not the final cut and honestly, she looked surprised and disappointed in Venice, her best scenes were cut, for no reason.. from a deep character she became a trophy character.. she's more a cameo to bring views than a developed character I can smell your penis, I can cure you, DIE SIS 6 2 5 22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DpHitch1992 1,142 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 100% It's pretty shocking how much was left out in the film that was shown in the trailer. She obviously knew this b4 hand and thought f**k it, I'm gonna make my own harley quinn era with a 6.5 album and I'm bloody glad she has. 26 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 8,738 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 This does make sense. She’s got a lot of things happening at the same time. LG7 will def blunt some of the negativity of Joker. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 13,042 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Yeah, we'll never know for sure but I think it's pretty obvious her team saw this coming and acted accordingly. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Oak 6,971 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 36 minutes ago, River said: She knew about the changes in the script but not the final cut and honestly, she looked surprised and disappointed in Venice, her best scenes were cut, for no reason.. from a deep character she became a trophy character.. she's more a cameo to bring views than a developed character Wait, they saw the film for the first time at the Venice festival? maybe that's why Joaquin left 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,368 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I disagree. There is no way she could predict the final cut. What is more likely is Interscope was like hmm... this soundtrack is not gonna make us a lot of money so Gaga, why don't you turn these unappealing songs into something else that we can actually market? Why not get your fiancé involved so we can clusterbomb these disparate elements (Olympics, engagement, Joker movie, Bruno collab) together into something that might sell? 1 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,423 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 idk if you guys are reading twitter but it’s kind of becoming a cult classic before our eyes 10 3 10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike 2,654 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I’m sure Gaga couldn’t care less about the criticism because she clearly believed deeply in this project and its ideas. The film is pretty good, and I think people are completely missing how delirious and political it really is. It feels like everyone is blind to the fact that behind all the madness, there’s a sharp critique of spectacle and society. 13 4 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 9,861 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I agree. Honestly, releasing LG7's lead in the same month seemed strange from the get-go. I know some people thought she might want to ride of Joker 2 buzz (back when we thought it would be positive), but usually there would be some breathing room and an attempt to extend the buzz as long as possible (e.g. if they really wanted to ride off good buzz, it feels like LG7's lead would have been released in November). The same month, though, feels like it's an attempt to counteract Joker 2. To be fair, I do feel like the negativity is overblown. I was disappointed, but I'm also baffled at the film receiving a lower cinemascore than Aquaman 2, The Flash, etc. In my opinion, Gaga's team knew it would be controversial, but I doubt they thought it would be this controversial. 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 41,843 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 i do wonder if LG7 lead is dependant on the movie's reception... "the movie's a hit, lets ride that wave, enjoy the praise and drop the single end of october!" "the movie's tanking, lets get that single out sooner rather than later so can swiftly move on " i don't think they predicted such a strong negative reception but maybe planned around the possibility since the fact it was a musical was divisive from the start mother, what must i do? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 9,945 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, River said: She knew about the changes in the script but not the final cut and honestly, she looked surprised and disappointed in Venice, her best scenes were cut, for no reason.. from a deep character she became a trophy character.. she's more a cameo to bring views than a developed character Agreed. Todd really did f*** her over and the final cut of this film is proof that she deserved so much more. The scenes with her were actually the best in the film. And the fact some of the more famous ones we know that got filmed but cut says more about his directorial skills than it does about her acting. I still enjoyed it overall but you can tell his vision was all over the place in some parts. Edited October 6 by Mister G 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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