Blake Lively On Blast Over Transphobic Language.

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24 minutes ago, Jigglygoth said:

I'm not from the United States, and I'm not familiar with certain terms, and the negative implications behind them, what is the deal with the whole "plantation" thing? I see it being brought up all the time when it comes to her, but I don't have the context. I googled it, and I sort of understand it's associated with slavery, is that the case? getting married in a plantation is considered racially insensitive? .

This article explains it a bit:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ryan-reynolds-blake-lively-apologize-plantation-themed-wedding-n1235770

//Reynolds and Lively got married at Boone Hall Plantation in Mount Pleasant, which features nine slave cabins, referred to as "Slave Street." The move was criticized at the time, but came under renewed scrutiny in 2018 after Reynolds tweeted in support of "Black Panther," the first superhero movie to feature a majority Black cast, and was accused of hypocrisy. 

The wedding industry has also been responding to plantation weddings' role in glamorizing sites of violence against Black people. Last year, Pinterest and The Knot banned pictures of all plantation weddings on its platform, including Reynolds' and Lively's.// 

Plantations depended on slave labor to function, so yes, as the article says, this ends up "glamorizing sites of violence." 

The above article also notes this about Lively:

//Lively has also been criticized separately for creating a lifestyle website called Preserve in 2014 that celebrated the Antebellum South — the period before the Civil War when slavery was still allowed — that featured a photoshoot titled "The Allure of Antebellum" without acknowledging the atrocities that took place during the period.//

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1 minute ago, Franch Toast said:

This article explains it a bit:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ryan-reynolds-blake-lively-apologize-plantation-themed-wedding-n1235770

//Reynolds and Lively got married at Boone Hall Plantation in Mount Pleasant, which features nine slave cabins, referred to as "Slave Street." The move was criticized at the time, but came under renewed scrutiny in 2018 after Reynolds tweeted in support of "Black Panther," the first superhero movie to feature a majority Black cast, and was accused of hypocrisy. 

The wedding industry has also been responding to plantation weddings' role in glamorizing sites of violence against Black people. Last year, Pinterest and The Knot banned pictures of all plantation weddings on its platform, including Reynolds' and Lively's.// 

Plantations depended on slave labor to function, so yes, as the article says, this ends up "glamorizing sites of violence." 

The above article also notes this about Lively:

//Lively has also been criticized separately for creating a lifestyle website called Preserve in 2014 that celebrated the Antebellum South — the period before the Civil War when slavery was still allowed — that featured a photoshoot titled "The Allure of Antebellum" without acknowledging the atrocities that took place during the period.//

Thanks for replying. I think I understand now. 

In Argentina, we had a dictatorship in the 70's, and there were several buildings that were used to torture people. Some of those places are "Memory Museums" now, and are used as a symbol to remember the crimes commited in those places, honor the memory of the victims, and avoid repeating our history. 

I guess getting married in a plantation would be the equivalent of getting married in a "Memory Museum" in my country. It's glamorizing a place associated with terror and pain. 

I understand why it is considered insensitive now, and the backlash around it. 

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I guess she’s the new Ellen huh?  Everybody pile on! So much fun!

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2 hours ago, Jigglygoth said:

Thanks for replying. I think I understand now. 

In Argentina, we had a dictatorship in the 70's, and there were several buildings that were used to torture people. Some of those places are "Memory Museums" now, and are used as a symbol to remember the crimes commited in those places, honor the memory of the victims, and avoid repeating our history. 

I guess getting married in a plantation would be the equivalent of getting married in a "Memory Museum" in my country. It's glamorizing a place associated with terror and pain. 

I understand why it is considered insensitive now, and the backlash around it. 

People getting married in plantation arent intentionally doing it, its just part of the culture in the south to get married in these places, but today its seen as insensitive and I agree it its insensitive.

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Back in the early 00's this word was used so so frequently. I remember Rachel Zoe always styling w "tr*nny shoes"

 

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Ngl, I low key cackled. Completely caught me off guard 

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Rupaul used to use “tranny” and then stopped. “Tranny Chaser” and “Responsitrannity” but I just assumed it was regarding “transvestites,” aka drag queens. 
 

There used to be a weekly/monthly drag show called “Tranny Shack” here in SF by the iconic Heklina. One of my fondest memories of her was her telling a story of her at some pride event in Europe and how a little kid was kinda confused by drag queens if they were men or women. So the kid goes to one of the queens and asks “are you a girl or a boy?” Then goes to another queen and asks “are you a boy or a girl?” Then to the next queen and asks “are you a boy or a girl?” Then the next queen and so on. Then the kid goes up to Heklina and stares and says ”……….you are a boy” and walks away. 
 

What Blake said is odd but I guess it’s more of a take on societies expectations of femininity and how if you’re taller or broader, you “look like a man.” I remember those episodes of Jenny Jones or Maury where they would have “is it a man or a woman” and the audience would always say “that’s a man, Maury!” to a taller or more muscular person but it would be a cisgender woman. 

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as a 6-foot-four trans woman, i find what she said to be both really offensive and really funny. *shrug* 

 

it's sad that this badly built butch blonde gopiss gurl is so ignorant to the legacy of tall women glamor, and instead of having that to look to for inspiration she has to bash trans women as if we aren't also shining examples of bigness as beauty.

 

8 hours ago, Bronco said:

How long before Ryan Reynolds ends up breaking up with her to protect his image as the loveable goof?

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Times have changed. Back then this was allowed and wasn't considered a slur or anything like it is now. I remember saying that word when talking about a trans person (and not meaning it in a bad way, either!) so yeah. Now she'd never say that and neither would I.

People are trying hard to cancel her.

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2 hours ago, ode said:

as a 6-foot-four trans woman, i find what she said to be both really offensive and really funny. *shrug* 

 

it's sad that this badly built butch blonde gopiss gurl is so ignorant to the legacy of tall women glamor, and instead of having that to look to for inspiration she has to bash trans women as if we aren't also shining examples of bigness as beauty.

 

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This was years ago, and "tranny" wasn't considered a slur back then. She didn't mean it as an insult.

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10 hours ago, Jigglygoth said:

Thanks for replying. I think I understand now. 

In Argentina, we had a dictatorship in the 70's, and there were several buildings that were used to torture people. Some of those places are "Memory Museums" now, and are used as a symbol to remember the crimes commited in those places, honor the memory of the victims, and avoid repeating our history. 

I guess getting married in a plantation would be the equivalent of getting married in a "Memory Museum" in my country. It's glamorizing a place associated with terror and pain. 

I understand why it is considered insensitive now, and the backlash around it. 

Wow, this is really interesting to me — and just another example of how much random and cool stuff you can learn about other people/places just from being a part of the GagaDaily community. 

What is the word/term for Argentina's "memory museums" in Spanish? I'm just curious. I would love to know more about this, because I feel like the U.S. really needs to do something similar in order to heal our culture from our horrible history.

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Just now, ode said:

Wow, this is really interesting to me — and just another example of how much random and cool stuff you can learn about other people/places just from being a part of the GagaDaily community. 

What is the word/term for Argentina's "memory museums" in Spanish? I'm just curious. I would love to know more about this, because I feel like the U.S. really needs to do something similar in order to heal our culture from our horrible history.

"Museo De La Memoria" 

It used to be a detention center during the dictatorship, and people who were kidnapped by the government were tortured and killed in there. In recent years, it was resedigned, and transformed into an educational space, and a place for human rights activism. 

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5 hours ago, ode said:

it's sad that this badly built butch blonde gopiss gurl is so ignorant to the legacy of tall women glamor, and instead of having that to look to for inspiration she has to bash trans women as if we aren't also shining examples of bigness as beauty.

I'd just like to point out that what you said is infinitely worse than what she said, with a much worse intent and prejudice to boot.

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1 hour ago, Hyoha said:

I'd just like to point out that what you said is infinitely worse than what she said, with a much worse intent and prejudice to boot.

it's a reference to the ""Bleach-Blonde, Bad-Built, Butch Body" insult against Marjorie Taylor Green, just to be clear lol. 

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/bleach-blonde-bad-built-butch-body

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5 hours ago, FrederickSpears said:

This was years ago, and "tranny" wasn't considered a slur back then. She didn't mean it as an insult.

a bit off-topic but i'd argue that the word was very much so considered a slur back then. She may have been ignorant in her usage of the word but it was and still is a slur.