Trump would let Israel “finish the job” in Gaza

[Chlorine 47,976]

**** is bad so let's throw gasoline on it by electing Trump. The logic is astounding. 

[NUTELLA 26,806]

4 minutes ago, Chlorine Sevigny said:

**** is bad so let's throw gasoline on it by electing Trump. The logic is astounding. 

Right??? This thread was about Donald Trump’s demented agenda.

Then someone always needs to make a *conscious choice* to draw attention to Joe Biden.

I had a very similar conversation with someone on here the other day. What part of

“the lesser of two evils”

is so difficult to grasp?

It is endlessly annoying that people with that “but, but…”

mindset could have REAL negative effects on other Americans (and beyond) this November.

No, abstaining is not an option, if they actually give a sh*t about preventing disaster.

My advice to people on here:

stop complaining about the LESSER EVIL until we have guaranteed that the GREATER EVIL has been defeated.

Every time someone speaks out against Biden, they risk convincing an “on the fence” person to not vote (or worse, to vote for his lunatic opponent).

•VOTE BIDEN

•STOP TRUMP

•PRECLUDE REGRET

💚

[Chlorine 47,976]

3 minutes ago, JessFletch said:

Right??? This thread was about Donald Trump’s demented agenda.

Then someone always needs to make a *conscious choice* to draw attention to Joe Biden.

I had a very similar conversation with someone on here the other day. What part of

“the lesser of two evils”

is so difficult to grasp?

It is endlessly annoying that people with that “but, but…”

mindset could have REAL negative effects on other Americans (and beyond) this November.

No, abstaining is not an option, if they actually give a sh*t about preventing disaster.

My advice to people on here:

stop complaining about the LESSER EVIL until we have guaranteed that the GREATER EVIL has been defeated.

Every time someone speaks out against Biden, they risk convincing an “on the fence” person to not vote (or worse, to vote for his lunatic opponent).

•VOTE BIDEN

•STOP TRUMP

•PRECLUDE REGRET

💚

Completely agree. Saying you don't like the choice and throwing your hands up is about the dumbest, laziest and most cowardly thing I've heard. A choice will be made in November between Biden and Trump. You not participating doesn't protect you from the fallout. 

[NUTELLA 26,806]

3 minutes ago, Chlorine Sevigny said:

A choice will be made in November between Biden and Trump. You not participating doesn't protect you from the fallout. 

If anything, it sets up a pool chair directly beneath the fallout.

I think everyone on here likes the idea of world peace.

Voting for Trump, or not voting at all, is actively kicking dirt onto the possibility of “peace” in the future.

There is always hope, as long as people aren’t morons.

[faysalaaa 5,336]

23 minutes ago, Chlorine Sevigny said:

There's a ceasefire on the table that Hamas has yet to accept. I must have missed the part where Trump said he'd be brokering a ceasefire. Please share the clip. 

Ceasefires are part of all wars, its not happening because of Biden, if Trump was president, ceasefires will still be part of the war. People are still being killed everyday, the temporary ceasefire only makes things go slower, but it doesnt really help anyone. Biden is funding and giving the greenlight for Israel to do whatever they want without any accountability. Biden says he is negotiating and he will tell Israel to not do certain things, but his action doesnt show this.

[Chlorine 47,976]

10 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

Ceasefires are part of all wars, its not happening because of Biden, if Trump was president, ceasefires will still be part of the war. People are still being killed everyday, the temporary ceasefire only makes things go slower, but it doesnt really help anyone. Biden is funding and giving the greenlight for Israel to do whatever they want without any accountability. Biden says he is negotiating and he will tell Israel to not do certain things, but his action doesnt show this.

So Trump was lying? Your point was that Biden says one thing and does another. So I guess when Trump said "Israel has to finish that job. They have to finish it quickly, strongly, and they have to get back to life again." he was talking about a ceasefire? 

Biden has withheld arm shipments though and he's publicly warned Netanyahu which is a huge deal. And he didn't start that way. Protests and activism have had an effect on Biden. Trump would not be the same. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,091]

24 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

Ceasefires are part of all wars, its not happening because of Biden, if Trump was president, ceasefires will still be part of the war. People are still being killed everyday, the temporary ceasefire only makes things go slower, but it doesnt really help anyone. Biden is funding and giving the greenlight for Israel to do whatever they want without any accountability. Biden says he is negotiating and he will tell Israel to not do certain things, but his action doesnt show this.

So you’re ignoring that he’s actively been a part of the negotiation process for ceasefires during this war (which directly undercuts your point that he isn’t *doing* anything). Got it, got it. 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

10 minutes ago, Chlorine Sevigny said:

So Trump was lying? Your point was that Biden says one thing and does another. So I guess when Trump said "Israel has to finish that job. They have to finish it quickly, strongly, and they have to get back to life again." he was talking about a ceasefire? 

Biden has withheld arm shipments though and he's publicly warned Netanyahu which is a huge deal. And he didn't start that way. Protests and activism have had an effect on Biden. Trump would not be the same. 

Even if you want to get the job done quickly, ceasefire will still be part of the quick job. I dont care about ceasefires, ceasefire just means pausing the deaths, and then returning to killing people again. Ceasefire are only helpful if both sides are willing to negotiate, but clearly Israel and Hamas are not willing to negotiate, the only thing they negotiate on is prisoners and hostages.

So yeah I dont care about Biden ceasefires, Biden needs to not help Israel with no strings attached. He can help them if he wants, but he needs to set boundaries instead of giving them the green light t do whatever. Israel has broken many of Bidens boundaries, and Biden says nothing, its just words.
 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

7 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

So you’re ignoring that he’s actively been a part of the negotiation process for ceasefires during this war (which directly undercuts your point that he isn’t *doing* anything). Got it, got it. 

I clearly admitted that hes part of the ceasefire, read my comments again.

But it means nothing to me to negotiate a ceasefire while you are funding Israel with weapons and money and giving them the greenlight to do whatever they want. Israel is able to do all this because they have Americas back. No country in the world is allowed to do what Israel is doing without backfire, but Israel can do it because America protects them and allows it. Biden is responsible for whats happening but he wants to get credit for "negotiating" a ceasefire that wont even help.

Biden has to make himself look good politically by saying hes part of negotiation, but his actions is different.

[NUTELLA 26,806]

1 minute ago, faysalaaa said:

I clearly admitted that hes part of the ceasefire, read my comments again.

Then what are you trying to accomplish? 
 

edit: in a thread about Trump 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

4 minutes ago, JessFletch said:

Then what are you trying to accomplish? 
 

edit: in a thread about Trump 

Not trying to accomplish anything other than give my opinion on a Lady Gaga fansite

I edited my last comment again, please read it

[NUTELLA 26,806]

2 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

Not trying to accomplish anything other than give my opinion on a Lady Gaga fansite

That is your right and I would never try to stop you.

Merely remind you how much is at stake.

Sharing opinions about Biden, in a thread about Trump, on an LG fan site, can have consequences.

edit- things CAN get worse 💔

[faysalaaa 5,336]

8 minutes ago, JessFletch said:

That is your right and I would never try to stop you.

Merely remind you how much is at stake.

Sharing opinions about Biden, in a thread about Trump, on an LG fan site, can have consequences.

edit- things CAN get worse 💔

Well obviously I dont believe my opinion has negative consequence, thats why im sharing it.

I know both Biden and Trump will listen to the war criminals in government because thats how the system is, weather its Biden or Trump. And to me, pointing this out is more important than giving credit to the better of two evils that doesnt even exist. Giving people false information and hope will allow the system and crimes to continue long term. They will use the credit you give them to continue their crimes and justify it.

[NUTELLA 26,806]

2 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

I dont believe my opinion has negative consequence

thats how the system is

the better of two evils that doesnt even exist.

Giving people false information and hope

They will use the credit you give them

If you convince someone to not vote, or to vote for Trump, you have created a negative consequence.

Biden is working within a system that Trump wants to destroy for his own benefit.

There is a better evil: Joe Biden.

No hope is false if it can actually make a difference for someone, and have positive ripple effects.

I have not given anyone any credit. I have merely asked for people to get a grip and pick their battles, at least UNTIL the coast is relatively clear on the home front, so to speak.

This is going to be a very volatile year. I just want people to row the boat forward, rather than rock it needlessly.

[faysalaaa 5,336]

Just now, JessFletch said:

If you convince someone to not vote, or to vote for Trump, you have created a negative consequence.

Biden is working within a system that Trump wants to destroy for his own benefit.

There is a better evil: Joe Biden.

No hope is false if it can actually make a difference for someone, and have positive ripple effects.

I have not given anyone any credit. I have merely asked for people to get a grip and pick their battles, at least UNTIL the coast is relatively clear on the home front, so to speak.

This is going to be a very volatile year. I just want people to row the boat forward, rather than rock it needlessly.

Its only a negative consequence to you though. I personally dont see the difference between Trump in Biden in relation to foreign affairs, which is what I personally care about considering im Middle Eastern. I also did not tell people to not vote Biden, but I would never lie or give credit to Biden when its not deserved in order to get people to vote for him. Its not my job to convince people to vote, its his job to earn peoples vote.