BABYL0N 2,839 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) I‘ve been logged off of this platform for a long while and ngl i was still checking up the updates here and then. I came here after this CelebrityBlockout thing out of curiosity just to see most of you guys really defending the silence of the woman who literally is THE political voice in the music industry. Like seriously? The woman that said „arrest me Russia“ and got banned from entering many countries for speaking up for the opressed? The Swifties understood the assignment and are currently critisizing Taylors silent position, why can‘t we do the same? This will definitely hurt her career. And no it will not last a couple of days. The whole globe is seeing the attrocities with their very own eyes, the silence about this now speaks volumes and you can‘t pick and choose in human rights matters. Praying for peace that every human beeing deserves. Edited May 12 by BABYL0N Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren 965 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 18 minutes ago, AkariGaga said: You can be friends with Jewish people and still against Genocide. The problem is, yes a lot of people are advocating for peace, but at the same time, an equal amount of people are advocating for violence. Unfortunately the pro-Palestinian cause became a big umbrella that includes anyone from those who support a two-state solution to those who call for the destruction of Israel. I’ve seen tweets with thousands of like saying what Hamas did on October 7 was justified, that all Israelis are legitimate targets and calling for the displacement of Israelis all together. Then you have neo-Nazis and white supremacists like Nick Fuentes, Lucas Gage, and Jackson Hinkle, who I doubt care about Palestinians, but tied themselves to the Palestinian cause and became a big voice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,272 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 ok but that’s fine tho the people of israel are fine it’s the fking genocide and the pepper complicit and directly impacting that the two are v diff people and we rly need people to figure that out it’s the IDF that’s the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmcmill 1,928 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Don’t let them find Gaga’s Tel Aviv press conference. Cancel culture is wild. Whatever any celebrity says will only inflame tensions higher, create more division which you know Gaga is against.. you know one artist’s opinion, not even Taylor Swift’s opinion, would solve the gravity of the conflict in that region. And what about every other issue she could be speaking on? Why this vs that? You’ll never make anyone happy and “doing the right thing” and “saying all the right things” isn’t decided by keyboard activists. Edited May 12 by hpmcmill 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren 965 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, hpmcmill said: Don’t let them find Gaga’s Tel Aviv press conference. Cancel culture is wild. Whatever any celebrity says will only inflame tensions higher, create more division which you know Gaga is against.. you know one artist’s opinion, not even Taylor Swift’s opinion, would solve the gravity of the conflict in that region. And what about every other issue she could be speaking on? Why this vs that? You’ll never make anyone happy and “doing the right thing” and “saying all the right things” isn’t decided by keyboard activists. It’s being about being a good person. There are people who seriously believe Taylor could end the war. 😭 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Just now, hpmcmill said: Don’t let them find Gaga’s Tel Aviv press conference. Cancel culture is wild. Whatever any celebrity says will only inflame tensions higher, create more division which you know Gaga is against, you know one artists opinion, not even Taylor Swifts, would unravel and solve the gravity of the conflict in that region. And what about every other issue she could be speaking on? Why this vs that? You’ll never make anyone happy and “doing the right thing” isn’t decided by keyboard activists. It’s being a good person. I've grown against cancel culture. It's the new witchhunt. No fairness. People take things out of context and believe lies because of human beings' instinct to want to believe the worst about others, and then boom you're done for, even though your statements were probably mischaracterized or facts are missing. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, BABYL0N said: I‘ve been logged off of this platform for a long while and ngl i was still checking up the updates here and then. I came here after this CelebrityBlockout thing out of curiosity just to see most of you guys really defending the silence of the woman who literally is THE political voice in the music industry. Like seriously? The woman that said „arrest me Russia“ and got banned from entering many countries for speaking up for the opressed? The Swifties understood the assignment and are currently critisizing Taylors silent position, why can‘t we do the same? This will definitely hurt her career. And no it will not last a couple of days. The whole globe is seeing the attrocities with their very own eyes, the silence about this now speaks volumes and you can‘t pick and choose in human rights matters. Praying for peace that every human beeing deserves. Cuz she knows better This is what happened to Dua Lipa when she tried to give a nuanced opinion about the topic. If Gaga says she feels bad for both "Palestinian and Israeli lives lost", she'll be accused of both-siding the issue. If she says she supports Palestinians without mentioning Israelis, she'll be branded antisemitic. If she says she supports Israelis, she'll be branded "pro-genocide". Can't win. Just say you support peace and love, and leave it at that. Edited May 12 by Dennis 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 29,257 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 That “TikTok” blocklist just confirms there’s a line between reality and being chronically online. Nothing is gonna change from these “blocks” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,049 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 LG7 must really be releasing in a couple weeks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Erm, Gaga's comments were incredibly ignorant and politically tonedeaf. And do not even try it with the "oh she just didn't know like many of us didn't know!", the Palestinian freedom movement was already in full swing by then, which included asking artists to not perform in Israel. There is a genocide unfolding with complicity from Western countries. Protesting has been shown to be the only thing that has any measurable impact on political progress in this issue. It will be down to the people, not institutions, not universities, not politicians,... unless they are pressured. This block campaign has already proven to work on several high profile celebrities. Don't take away people's agency. Edited May 12 by Didymus 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,735 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Do people not realise this was 10 years ago and she was clearly talking about the people being kind and the place being nice which was against popular opinion. There's literally nothing wrong here. People are so stupid I swear people are using the war for their own selfish purposes, to feel like they are so socially conscious by making all these huge statements all the while not actually doing anything productive I hate the term social justic warriors but I swear there's a large group of people who jump on current social trends just to feel good about themselves and fuel their own ego and everyone eats it up I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,597 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) tbh you can scrap all the grammy landscape and still have a life full of amazing, show stopping music. no celeb is irreplaceable. Edited May 12 by Nathaniel Arven Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Helxig said: Do people not realise this was 10 years ago and she was clearly talking about the people being kind and the place being nice which was against popular opinion. There's literally nothing wrong here. People are so stupid I swear people are using the war for their own selfish purposes, to feel like they are so socially conscious by making all these huge statements all the while not actually doing anything productive I hate the term social justic warriors but I swear there's a large group of people who jump on current social trends just to feel good about themselves and fuel their own ego and everyone eats it up This is not true. Gaga's comments came only weeks after 2000 Palestinians (most of them civilians) were killed by Israeli airstrikes. Israel was under international media fire, especially outside of the US, for showing incredible lack of constraint and for its use of propaganda to play the victim. Gaga's comments can not be isolated from that political context, as she explicitly referred to it: she acknowledged that her team had been concerned about performing in Tel Aviv for security reasons because of this particular situation. So, no, she was not talking about "the people being kind". She quite consciously took a stance against the popular opinion that artists should refuse to perform in Israel for political reasons. Was she just being naive and impressionable? Of course. Doesn't make it any less reprehensible in hindsight. She should distance herself from those disgusting remarks. Also who are you to say they're not doing anything productive? You don't know what else these people are doing. They are probably also committing to BDS boycotting and might even be protesting on the street, raising awareness via their own platforms,... I'll take any "social justice warrior" protesting an unfolding genocide over people complaining about others using their voices for good. Edited May 12 by Didymus 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 For people who need a reminder that during the artRAVE, Israel and Gaza were also at war: https://www.unrwa.org/2014-gaza-conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War Educate yourself. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chathonnete 420 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Her comment was very clumsy at that time, but it's not from a week ago Edited May 12 by chathonnete Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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