The possibility of Justin's Believe tour out grossing the BTWB? Update

[Griffin 6]

Mess. Yes, they are

He probably will tbh.

Very few shows in North America on the BTW Ball sold out.

All shows by now have sold out. None have reached "full house" as of yet.

[bumblebee 2,528]

If you take a look at the numbers of Justin Bieber' tour a--lytically, you will get the following:

His average gross per ticket during North America Leg 1 was $74,66

His average gross per show during North America Leg 1 was $1,108,360.

Although we only have info from 5 Gaga shows in North America, her average ticket during NA Leg is $99,75, and $1,287,927 average show gross.

Anyways, even if to model up a situation that he got the same average show attendance as Gaga had in Europe and has same-priced tickets, and then sold the same number of tickets in Oceania with the same price, Believe Tour would gross around $193,000,000.

But I don't think personally he would be able to charge the same prices like at the Born This Way Ball show, cause Europe usually has cheaper prices than North America, and if he doesn't catch up with Gaga's gross per ticket in North America, how can he possibly do it in Europe?

The only way for him to outgross BTWB is to to do significantly more dates, like 180-200 dates, which is doubtful. With his last tour he did 130 dates, now he is planning to do 122. He is a human, after all.

[Mister G 10,427]

I didn't think people still followed him...

[Alii 2,039]

No, please :eww:

[Chucky 39]

We're talking about someone who's so desperate to get the most Twitter followers that he leaks a picture of his ass

I can't imagine what he'll do on tour to make money

Grabs a fans tits tbh :laughga:

[Galactic Mess 1,393]

Grabs a fans tits tbh

Done that :bleh:

[BadHeavyMetalQueen 142]

I seriously doubt it.

[wiltedbliss 915]

No

[Mills 446]

I did not even expect that he can pull those numbers. $54 Million for his first leg in North America? What a stunner for me. At this rate, he could easily outsell the last tours of Katy Perry ($60 million) and Rihanna ($90 million), both of whom are considered among the world's biggest music superstars. This is beyond impressive since his last world tour grossed only $53 million from 130 shows. I guess I underestimated Justin Bieber. I knew he can move millions of albums, but not to be a huge touring act at a very young age.

Anyway, I'd say this tour could rake in between $120-150 million, but I'm convinced that it would not gross more than $200 million, in the process not outgrossing Gaga's BTW Ball to answer the question of the OP.

But if his current tour does reach $120-$150 million, then imagine how would his next tour perform. :giveup:

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

First of all, you are wrong, and second of all North America isnt the only touring market.

What a great argument you have presented.

Mess. Yes, they are

Receipts?

[hausofandrew 105]

With tickets priced at $30 and $80? That's funny.

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

All shows by now have sold out. None have reached "full house" as of yet.

Lol, you're completely wrong.

I'm going to Houston's show tonight and there are still seats available in nearly every section.

Learn your facts.

[hausofandrew 105]

Well, the reason Bieber sold more seats at the Tacoma dome was because there were more seats in the building for his show, the Tacoma Dome is just a huge circle with bleachers and for Gaga's show only a certain amount of bleachers could fit due to the size of the stage and the mix (soundboard).

Bieber's stage is VERY small.

He needs to perform 210 shows to outgross the Born This Way Ball.

[alejandroscunt 0]

I think he does actually have a big following in Asia, and it's there where the more expensive tickets would be found... Adding to the gross.

[Morina 0]

What a great argument you have presented.

Lol, you're completely wrong.

I'm going to Houston's show tonight and there are still seats available in nearly every section.

Learn your facts.

You didnt even post an argument. And Houston is one show genius, you claimed almost every NA show is not sold out. Which is wrong. Why dont you try finding facts on your own and stop sounding stupid.

And stating that NA isnt the only touring market is a good argument, since that means if Bieber beats Gaga in NA he still wont out gross her in total.

So, to conclude...you should try being a little more intelligent. I know its tough but you can try.