Bronco 5,701 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, CoolTrainerTerry said: Um, I think you forgot her Purposeful Pop Era I was tempted to call Reputation Punk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIM820 1,747 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) This was at a very contentious time between her and Taylor Swift, no? So I kinda think the possibility of sabotage is high. Not saying the artists themselves did anything specifically, but the people they employ and the record labels are not always the greatest and will use tactics like influencing certain radio stations or certain journalists/ popular outlets for their support. Not to mention how political she was being, I am sure that angered certain conservatives in the industry. Edited April 3 by HIM820 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 3,999 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 PITCHFORK ISNT A UNBIASED NEWS OUTLET WITH THE HIGHEST, NON-MESSY JOURNALISM OUT THERE ?!?!1?2?1!? wow. I think I need to sit down. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWitch 720 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Honestly, I loved Witness but didn’t connect with Smile much. I also didn’t vibe with Xtina’s album “Liberation” and kinda fell off from there. I would love to know more on claims of conspiracy since I’m ignorant to that and don’t have a ton of social accounts, but my personal perspective has been that both artists are responsible for their declines. Xtina’s difficulties and tumultuousness are also something that seem to add to her career challenges, and both have absolutely had releases that may prove to be ahead of their time but didn’t land. I haven’t gotten the chance to listen to AGUILERA yet, but it’s on my list to soon (work and school). For both I’ll still keep eyes and ears open and see how it goes. I’m in the same place with Lana the last few albums tbh. Honestly, I think fan/stan bases are a bit eager to try and absolve artists of personal accountability when their careers falter. Sometimes that is also in contradiction to the ethics we try to hold others to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 18,927 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Like sure that might’ve helped but who told her to release Witness as it was with some of those crap ass performances.. she didn’t do anything good that would stop the backlash either lmao Edited April 3 by Lextyr97 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumzy3000 6,921 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, JorgeX said: So if that is the case, why the public isn’t tired of taylor swift doing the same thing over and over again? I strongly disagree. Taylor was literally a 17 year old pop-country artist when she started. Since then she has delved into pop full on and explored various genres like EDM, rock, hip-hop, and indie. Also, Taylor Swift is a much better and versatile songwriter than Katy Perry. She has explored a lot of themes relating to politics, death, relationships, mental health, alcoholism, childhood/maturing etc. If you only listen to Taylor's singles then you won't get it but her deep album cuts have great lyrics. Taylor's music is quite personal and relatable for the average person her age and that sets her apart. trolly troll troll 4 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 70,896 Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 I can see a planned effort to write negative articles around her having happened, and having a negative impact on her career, but I think with proper talent or vision it would not have ended up as it did/she would be seen as an icon today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukiiGleek 173 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 her success went downhill when she stopped working with Dr Luke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,086 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Isn't this the same people who claims big artist are on 6 million lawsuits yesterday?!! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘸𝘢𝘴 17 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 nonsense... if there are HITS, negative press only helps. She didn't have the hits to back her up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,412 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, gumzy3000 said: I strongly disagree. Taylor was literally a 17 year old pop-country artist when she started. Since then she has delved into pop full on and explored various genres like EDM, rock, hip-hop, and indie. Also, Taylor Swift is a much better and versatile songwriter than Katy Perry. She has explored a lot of themes relating to politics, death, relationships, mental health, alcoholism, childhood/maturing etc. If you only listen to Taylor's singles then you won't get it but her deep album cuts have great lyrics. Taylor's music is quite personal and relatable for the average person her age and that sets her apart. I used to judge Taylor based on her singles (which I mostly found bland). When you listen to her albums in full you appreciate the complexity of her song writing more. "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownery 3,471 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, G U C C I said: Is this some narrative she is paying to be pushed since she is reportedly making a comeback album this year? Because I can’t see how anything was planned for her to have a downfall? She just lost popularity with the public and couldn’t do a rebrand/reinvention of herself because she lacks versatility and let’s be honest she’s not the most talented. For sure lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reject False Icons 4,631 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 everyone talk like it’s 2013 again please as if Gaga was the Mozart of our time and Katy was a cheap generic singer, Gaga’s my fave too I get it but girl as if you weren’t annoying begging for pop music every time she does a jazz gig/album. And now everyone comparing them again for the 1000 time don’t you want Pop to be interesting again, at least let them start their era hyped 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,086 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Reject False Icons said: everyone talk like it’s 2013 again please as if Gaga was the Mozart of our time and Katy was a cheap generic singer Which 2013 is this?! This was how 2013 really like around Roar-Applause era (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘸𝘢𝘴 17 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ 11 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reject False Icons 4,631 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, RAMROD said: Which 2013 is this?! This was how 2013 really like around Roar-Applause era Twitter was WILD Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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