Dennis 8,391 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 1 minute ago, alsemanche said: They've repeatedly expressed readiness to release hostage (under reasonable conditions, obviously) but here's news from literally a few hours ago yeah, but opinions aside, The U.N SC resolution text does not say prisoner swap. It says immediate and unconditional release of the hostages. This is why I'm saying it's actually good for Israel. But their government is being too dumb to realize it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,930 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dennis said: If Israel was smart they'd be on board with this U.N resolution. It basically calls for a temporary ceasefire and an unconditional release of the hostages. Unironically, if implemented it'd be a good deal for them. If I were Israel's PM I'd say yes I'm on board with this, let's hear from Hamas and shift the blame on them if they refuse to release the hostages. But the current PM of Israel is dumb. I agree, if the resolution tied the cease fire to the hostage release. I don't think the cease fire resolution requires the hostage release, but are separate issues. So Hamas could ignore the hostage release part and Israel could ignore the cease fire part. So unfortunate and sad. I agree that it would be great if Israel did exactly as you said. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren 965 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 39 minutes ago, high culture said: We should be advocating for the dissolution of Israel tbh they have demonstrated they have no regard for human rights Israel has a much better human rights record than literally all of its neighbors in the Middle East. And calling for the dissolution of Israel is basically a genocidal call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high culture 2,376 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 25 minutes ago, Aren said: And calling for the dissolution of Israel is basically a genocidal call. Zionists will really twist anything to make them seem like the victim -- when IDF is killing Palestinian civilians in the street for fun. Your point is moot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,287 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 Why is Israel pretending to care about the hostages when they've straight up murdered several of them with reckless violence? Perception is everything. Israel is risking losing the support they depend on pretty much to exist. If they were intelligent, they'd stop the genocide and allow aide to pour into Gaza. Then Hamas immediately becomes the only bad guy in this current situation rather than both sides being violent piles of garbage with the blood of innocents on their hands. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,287 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 Just now, PartySick said: Why is Israel pretending to care about the hostages when they've straight up murdered several of them with reckless violence? Perception is everything. Israel is risking losing the support they depend on pretty much to exist. If they were intelligent, they'd stop the genocide and allow aide to pour into Gaza. Then Hamas immediately becomes the only bad guy in this current situation rather than both sides being violent piles of garbage with the blood of innocents on their hands. Counter point to this, Hamas could also release all hostages and leave Israel without a flimsy excuse for their rampage. But there's me holding a supposedly advanced nation, a "beacon of human rights in the ME", to a higher standard than a militant political group. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,249 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 48 minutes ago, high culture said: We should be advocating for the dissolution of Israel tbh they have demonstrated they have no regard for human rights Do you actually read what you say before you post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high culture 2,376 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 11 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said: You sound barbaric, stupid and ignorant. https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1770909731164426352?s=46&t=QrKksqecaT9PNU_k9vdgvA How about you justify this type of behavior -- then go ahead and call me barbaric and stupid, you are the ignorant one, my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,368 Posted March 25, 2024 Author Share Posted March 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Aren said: What about the hostages? This war could end today if Hamas released all the hostages. Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostage. Hamas offered a prisoner swap at the beginning of the war but it wasn't accepted. Even if the hostages are released, Israel will still want continue destroying Gaza and it shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 7,832 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, Bambino said: Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostage. Hamas offered a prisoner swap at the beginning of the war but it wasn't accepted. Even if the hostages are released, Israel will still want continue destroying Gaza and it shows. *the current administration. not „Israel“. These statements can slip into generalizations into antisemitism pretty quickly. But I agree with you on the sentiment. I don’t think the interest for Netanyahu lies only in „destroying Hamas“ saving people, hunting things - the family business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,866 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 58 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said: Completely demonize and destruct the other side, always. Simply because you‘re right. You can always say sorry later. The irony. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,249 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 1 minute ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: The irony. No person in their right mind thinks what the Israeli Government is doing is right. And if the UN was functioning properly there would be consequences. No matter how harsh, they would be justified. Just like Russia and the US should have been held accountable in SEVERAL instances in the last 70 years. But the blatant antisemitism isn’t and won‘t be justified by me ever. You guys are literally calling for another capital H. Are you advocating for dissolving the US or Russia over the atrocities and human right violations they are responsible for in the last 80 years? Should basically most of Europe have been dissolved after the 19th and 20th centuries of war and destruction? Should the Axis Powers have been dissolved after WW II without reaching them a hand and a pathway to peace? Each and every country‘s history mentioned and hinted at makes Israel since October look like a sheep. What‘s different about this situation? I fear it might be that it‘s the first and only state with a Jewish majority in hundreds of years, but correct me if I‘m wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,249 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 1 hour ago, high culture said: https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1770909731164426352?s=46&t=QrKksqecaT9PNU_k9vdgvA How about you justify this type of behavior -- then go ahead and call me barbaric and stupid, you are the ignorant one, my friend. I‘m condemning a de facto genocide. And I’m calling for consequences. Point blank. But I won‘t call for basically a genocide as an answer to a genocide or in other words leaving almost 10million people stateless and basically in the hand of neighbors who would gladly „take care of them“, to say it nicely. But go ahead and call me barbaric. Israel is to blame for this genocide. But Israel is not to blame for the way and the reason it was created, that‘s the collective fault of the West. And yes it‘s arrogant for you in your privileged cotton candy western world with 1st world problems to say said country should lose the right to exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,866 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 1 hour ago, BornAsUnic0rn said: Are you advocating for dissolving the US or Russia over the atrocities and human right violations they are responsible for in the last 80 years? Should basically most of Europe have been dissolved after the 19th and 20th centuries of war and destruction? Should the Axis Powers have been dissolved after WW II without reaching them a hand and a pathway to peace? Yes This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren 965 Posted March 25, 2024 Share Posted March 25, 2024 Are we surprised? https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1772380147942904160?s=46&t=78umILWrWi0Uoyyg-utNEw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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