Gaga changed lyrics in BTW last night

[Flippy 12,299]

5 minutes ago, monstertoronto said:

I was going to say this! I like how he changed it. 

Taste!!!! also, hope you’re doing well king! 

[Angel Wings 31]

She can't even stand behind her work when she meant no harm. I'm done.

Always bending the knee to what someone has to say. It's really a legacy artist behavior when you are way more worried about what you wrote in the past and how it would made look given the current way of thinking. There's just no contesting.

An artist, who doesn't want to fight for his work or to challange the status quo, isn't needed. Now I get why Lady Gaga it's not considered a vanguard artist anymore. She's afraid to take criticism and doesn't want the anger of her fans. A very much person used to what evangelical america thinks of her to the point that she even changes the tone when approaching them.

Taylor Swift is more provocative when taking risks in her lyrics and attacking anyone or depicting the world with her storytelling. Lana Del Rey portrayals herself as the american bitch poet. Ariana cross the line telling a man to break with his girlfriend just to stay with her. These artists are not relatable as some might think. They put their lives into song lyrics and people sure are interested in gossips at best when they sing in a poetic way. Ups and downs, irony, happiness, ressentment and political nuances, all of that is there.

What about Gaga? The same dance music and weird fashion from 2010's.  It's a common place, it doesn't contest, it takes things as they are and it tries to conform not only to the way of the world, but also to the vision which the world has from her. What about the message? Aesthetics is important, but it isn't everything. When she debuted, the message was "I can be just weird as this clothes I wear" and now the current way of thinking, at least from a leftist point of view, is "I'm so ****ing weird that languange, thoughts and the world has to addapt to me". And guess what? The world has addapted to her weirdness.

All I coud hear in chromatica was she crying because some upsets in her life with generic lyrics and dance beat. 911 its a scratch to the rip apart that it would be, if she released herself entirely. I miss sacarsm and irony. Enough with self-pity.

All in the name of kindness...ugh.

 

ok I needed to put this out of my chest.

[TheSine 6,169]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

This whole thread feels like a lot of people talking right past each other tbh 

Feels like this.

[NymphetaGold 321]

14 hours ago, PMM said:

actually......

yall remember the thing that burns posted with something really really simillar to hml intro? 

i am just leaving this here

Jesus christ it all makes sense nowwwwwwwwwwa noooooooooooo omg noooo

[monstertoronto 9,358]

2 hours ago, Flippy said:

Taste!!!! also, hope you’re doing well king! 

You too! ❤️🙌

[Aglaya 8,360]

2 hours ago, Angel Wings said:

She can't even stand behind her work when she meant no harm. I'm done.

Always bending the knee to what someone has to say. It's really a legacy artist behavior when you are way more worried about what you wrote in the past and how it would made look given the current way of thinking. There's just no contesting.

An artist, who doesn't want to fight for his work or to challange the status quo, isn't needed. Now I get why Lady Gaga it's not considered a vanguard artist anymore. She's afraid to take criticism and doesn't want the anger of her fans. A very much person used to what evangelical america thinks of her to the point that she even changes the tone when approaching them.

Taylor Swift is more provocative when taking risks in her lyrics and attacking anyone or depicting the world with her storytelling. Lana Del Rey portrayals herself as the american bitch poet. Ariana cross the line telling a man to break with his girlfriend just to stay with her. These artists are not relatable as some might think. They put their lives into song lyrics and people sure are interested in gossips at best when they sing in a poetic way. Ups and downs, irony, happiness, ressentment and political nuances, all of that is there.

What about Gaga? The same dance music and weird fashion from 2010's.  It's a common place, it doesn't contest, it takes things as they are and it tries to conform not only to the way of the world, but also to the vision which the world has from her. What about the message? Aesthetics is important, but it isn't everything. When she debuted, the message was "I can be just weird as this clothes I wear" and now the current way of thinking, at least from a leftist point of view, is "I'm so ****ing weird that languange, thoughts and the world has to addapt to me". And guess what? The world has addapted to her weirdness.

All I coud hear in chromatica was she crying because some upsets in her life with generic lyrics and dance beat. 911 its a scratch to the rip apart that it would be, if she released herself entirely. I miss sacarsm and irony. Enough with self-pity.

All in the name of kindness...ugh.

 

ok I needed to put this out of my chest.

What are you even talking about 

[PMM 3,274]

14 hours ago, elijahfan said:

She hasn't even gone near the idea of a greatest hits album, so if y'all really think she'll go back to rerecord all of her catalogue for whatever reason, you have a very flawed perception of her character... 

just btw 

this albu need mixing and we alos need Stuck on ****ing you on it 

[TheSine 6,169]

11 hours ago, Angel Wings said:

She can't even stand behind her work when she meant no harm. I'm done.

Always bending the knee to what someone has to say. It's really a legacy artist behavior when you are way more worried about what you wrote in the past and how it would made look given the current way of thinking. There's just no contesting.

An artist, who doesn't want to fight for his work or to challange the status quo, isn't needed. Now I get why Lady Gaga it's not considered a vanguard artist anymore. She's afraid to take criticism and doesn't want the anger of her fans. A very much person used to what evangelical america thinks of her to the point that she even changes the tone when approaching them.

Taylor Swift is more provocative when taking risks in her lyrics and attacking anyone or depicting the world with her storytelling. Lana Del Rey portrayals herself as the american bitch poet. Ariana cross the line telling a man to break with his girlfriend just to stay with her. These artists are not relatable as some might think. They put their lives into song lyrics and people sure are interested in gossips at best when they sing in a poetic way. Ups and downs, irony, happiness, ressentment and political nuances, all of that is there.

What about Gaga? The same dance music and weird fashion from 2010's.  It's a common place, it doesn't contest, it takes things as they are and it tries to conform not only to the way of the world, but also to the vision which the world has from her. What about the message? Aesthetics is important, but it isn't everything. When she debuted, the message was "I can be just weird as this clothes I wear" and now the current way of thinking, at least from a leftist point of view, is "I'm so ****ing weird that languange, thoughts and the world has to addapt to me". And guess what? The world has addapted to her weirdness.

All I coud hear in chromatica was she crying because some upsets in her life with generic lyrics and dance beat. 911 its a scratch to the rip apart that it would be, if she released herself entirely. I miss sacarsm and irony. Enough with self-pity.

All in the name of kindness...ugh.

 

ok I needed to put this out of my chest.

You are fighting ghosts.

[Lucas 25,732]

17 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I mean, I don’t see a single person on this thread making a big deal out of it lol.

The people on this forum don't represent the entire world, thank god

[Ladle Ghoulash 20,247]

3 hours ago, Lucas said:

The people on this forum don't represent the entire world, thank god

Yeah, still haven’t really seen anyone making a huge deal out of this anywhere online, but okay. 

[Economy 48,929]

Is Chola considered derogatory is that the reason?

 

And before yall at me the entire world isnt America. No one where I live uses that term and i first heard of it in BTW actually

[Chromatislaps 34,824]

On 2/11/2024 at 9:50 AM, River said:

Gaga's Version - a dance force rerecording of her previous hit albums

Stefani's Version - An indie Lana-Like rerecording, with the produce Jack Antoniononoff

Ally's Version - A rerecording country turned pop, 1989 inspired, basic, cheap but overrated.

CONFIRMED

Yuyi's version's - A rerecording under water

Jo Calderone's version - A rerecording with a heavy smokers voice  

 

[Chromatislaps 34,824]

On 2/11/2024 at 11:48 PM, Angel Wings said:

She can't even stand behind her work when she meant no harm. I'm done.

Always bending the knee to what someone has to say. It's really a legacy artist behavior when you are way more worried about what you wrote in the past and how it would made look given the current way of thinking. There's just no contesting.

An artist, who doesn't want to fight for his work or to challange the status quo, isn't needed. Now I get why Lady Gaga it's not considered a vanguard artist anymore. She's afraid to take criticism and doesn't want the anger of her fans. A very much person used to what evangelical america thinks of her to the point that she even changes the tone when approaching them.

Taylor Swift is more provocative when taking risks in her lyrics and attacking anyone or depicting the world with her storytelling. Lana Del Rey portrayals herself as the american bitch poet. Ariana cross the line telling a man to break with his girlfriend just to stay with her. These artists are not relatable as some might think. They put their lives into song lyrics and people sure are interested in gossips at best when they sing in a poetic way. Ups and downs, irony, happiness, ressentment and political nuances, all of that is there.

What about Gaga? The same dance music and weird fashion from 2010's.  It's a common place, it doesn't contest, it takes things as they are and it tries to conform not only to the way of the world, but also to the vision which the world has from her. What about the message? Aesthetics is important, but it isn't everything. When she debuted, the message was "I can be just weird as this clothes I wear" and now the current way of thinking, at least from a leftist point of view, is "I'm so ****ing weird that languange, thoughts and the world has to addapt to me". And guess what? The world has addapted to her weirdness.

All I coud hear in chromatica was she crying because some upsets in her life with generic lyrics and dance beat. 911 its a scratch to the rip apart that it would be, if she released herself entirely. I miss sacarsm and irony. Enough with self-pity.

All in the name of kindness...ugh.

 

ok I needed to put this out of my chest.

I don't think its that deep, Also the times change, whatever was acceptable back in the 70s,80s,90s,00s,10s, is not perse acceptable now. She did right for instance to remove DWUW from ARTPOP, even though I love the track, its not worth the drama to keep it on the album and to associate oneself with proven problematic people.

[misha4ever 1,899]

On 2/11/2024 at 6:43 AM, Lucas said:

Can a native english speaker explain to me how "chola or orient made" was wrong in the 1st place? 

I don't think most Cholas/os care about the use of the word but Asian-American people dislike the use of oriental and it's a Western/colonialist/racist term.

[misha4ever 1,899]

On 2/11/2024 at 12:36 PM, Gaga2645 said:

I think it is important to note that if you are a non-latino/non-asian fan you can ofc have your opinions on the lyric change but at the same time understand/grasp that your opinion will not hold as much weight as actual Latinos/Asians when it comes to these terms! 
not trying to police people but just trying to highlight that these lyrics hold weight for certain groups that you will not understand.

As a latino though my family knows I love gaga and they and I have never had an issue with the “Chola” line but I also can’t discredit that there are latinos who don’t feel comfortable with a white woman referring to latinos as such by stereotyping latinos as Cholos/Cholas. You guys have to acknowledge that no matter intention what you’re saying at the end of the day is what your saying - the words you choose are important!

I can say though, within the latino community there’s a lot of differences in opinion over “Latinx” so I’m kind of glad she didn’t go with the remix lyrics lol

I honestly, as Latina, don't think she was referring to all latin@s as chol@s, she's referencing THE Cholas, IMO