Dennis 8,391 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Why he acts like this, i'm kinda concerned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Emvee said: The graphic has a social scale and an economic scale. Libertarianism is clearly far-right on the economic scale. No, that’s not how this graph reads. The graph shows there can be leftist, centrist, and far right libertarians. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,829 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: No, that’s not how this graph reads. The graph shows there can be leftist, centrist, and far right libertarians. Well I was mostly responding to libertarianism as it pertains to Milei. It’s far right libertarianism. That person was implying you can’t be far right libertarian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, Emvee said: Well I was mostly responding to libertarianism as it pertains to Milei. It’s far right libertarianism. Sure. Just clarifying because that’s not what you said in your original post, but I understand what you mean now. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: Sadly, people got fed up and will literally elect anyone who gives them hope for change. Basically. There were way better options though. I voted for Schiaretti in prior instances and nullified my vote in this one. I couldn't vote any of the two candidates in this instance with a clean conscience. I mean, what is the current economy minister who has basically been serving as a president for the last year and a half gonna do that he hasn't already ? on the other hand, this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,829 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Sure. Just clarifying because that’s not what you said in your original post, but I understand what you mean now. I think libertarian left is when workers literally own the means of production as opposed to the state like in the USSR, right? You made me wonder what economic libertarian left actually looks like now lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Vela 2,745 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Sorry but Argentina wouldn't resist another "left" government. They are starving and people needed a 180° change. Is he kinda messy? yes. But he also said that he doesn't have any problem with two consensual adults getting married, your sexual orientation is something he is not bothered about, he thinks anyone is free to choose their partner. Too bad the fake left in latin america is painting him like some kind of villain. Btw, I'm glad here in mexico we are getting two women candidates that are supportive about same sx marriage (something that it's already legal in mexico) and abortion, they are more of a real left political view (not like our actual president). So we're not choosing between two radically opposite candidates. (they are not the most well prepared politicians but something is something) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Emvee said: I think libertarian left is when workers literally own the means of production as opposed to the state like in the USSR, right? You made me wonder what economic libertarian left actually looks like now lol Libertarian left is also often called “anarcho-communism.” Essentially, there’s no formal “state,” but an agreement among a community of individuals to act in their shared best interest. So as far as I understand, I think you’re right! We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Omar Vela said: Sorry but Argentina wouldn't resist another "left" government. They are starving and people needed a 180° change. Is he kinda messy? yes. But he also said that he doesn't have any problem with two consensual adults getting married, your sexual orientation is something he is not bothered about, he thinks anyone is free to choose their partner. Too bad the fake left in latin america is painting him like some kind of villain. Btw, I'm glad here in mexico we are getting two women candidates that are supportive about same sx marriage (something that it's already legal in mexico) and abortion, they are more of a real left political view (not like our actual president). So we're not choosing between two radically opposite candidates. (they are not the most well prepared politicians but something is something) He literally called leftists “****” and “scum” who cannot be tolerated. That, to me, reeks of someone who would seek to either A.) weaponize the state against their political opponents or B.) justify political violence against their political opponents. He’s also explicitly anti-abortion. Also, imo, your line of reasoning is the same **** Trump voters say about Trump (and they’re equally as wrong). We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Interesting that @Omar Vela thinks a president demonizing their political opposition is funny. https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1726385026164576374?s=46 We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Vela 2,745 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: He literally called leftists “****” and “scum” who cannot be tolerated. That, to me, reeks of someone who would seek to either A.) weaponize the state against their political opponents or B.) justify political violence against their political opponents. He’s also explicitly anti-abortion. Also, imo, your line of reasoning is the same **** Trump voters say about Trump (and they’re equally as wrong). He is messy, yeah. But literally Argentina wouldn't bare another Kirchnerian government... You got too angry at me for no reason. He won, we can't do anything, hope he would fix Argentina economy at least a little and hope he doesn't turn back the abortion law that was already aproved in argentina. Also latin american "leftists" are scum... just see what they've done in Venezuela, Mexico, Nicaragua, Colombia, etc etc. Everything is way worst than before. PD: I found funny how you got so angry at me for no reason. Its not funny when a politician demonize their opposition, something that the "left" in latin america has done since forever. Mexican president does it on a daily basis on his morning conference... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,867 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Omar Vela said: He is messy, yeah. But literally Argentina wouldn't bare another Kirchnerian government... You got to angry with me for no reason. He won, we can't do anything, hope he would fix Argentina economy at least a little and hope he doesn't turn back the abortion law that was already aproved in argentina. Also latin american "leftists" are scum... just see what they've done in Venezuela, Mexico, Nicaragua, Colombia, etc etc. Everything is way worst than before. When did I get angry with you? Lmao. I called you out for being passive aggressive. But, either way, his rhetoric doesn’t exist in a vacuum. His comments about leftists are eerily similar to those of Orban and Trump, one of whom has legitimately weaponized the government against his political opposition and another who has threatened to go as far as to use the military against his opponents. So it sounds like he walks like a duck, talks like a duck… We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,818 Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Interesting that @Omar Vela thinks a president demonizing their political opposition is funny. https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1726385026164576374?s=46 Is he wearing a wig wtf is on his head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: He literally called leftists “****” and “scum” who cannot be tolerated. That, to me, reeks of someone who would seek to either A.) weaponize the state against their political opponents or B.) justify political violence against their political opponents. He’s also explicitly anti-abortion. Also, imo, your line of reasoning is the same **** Trump voters say about Trump (and they’re equally as wrong). Hating Leftists doesnt make him Trump. Almost everyone hate Leftists, even Leftists hate themselves. To me, it depends on why he hates Leftist, and what Leftist policies does he support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Omar Vela said: Also latin american "leftists" are scum... just see what they've done in Venezuela, Mexico, Nicaragua, Colombia, etc etc. Everything is way worst than before. I sort of agree with you on this. Although I see myself as more of a democrat/liberal, some elements of the left definitely concern me. I've been reading on this guy today, and it seems that he wants to dollarize the economy which seemed to work for El Salvador. Basically he'd rather use the currency of another nation as a standard than let corrupt politicians in his country continue to debase the peso. I mean when you look at 140% inflation, sadly he does have a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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