Taylor Swift’s ‘Cruel Summer’ hits no. 1 on Billboard Hot 100

[MessyTop 14,388]

1 hour ago, C Rose said:

The difference is, Gaga didnt release remixes and versions of Bloody Mary so it could chart better and get to number 1. She let it be. And I feel that is more organic and respectable than inflating the actual consumption of a song.

It gets really boring when some of you mention bitterness. We have been through this already. Nothing about being bitter. I do not wish for Gaga to have this kind of artificial success. In 10 years time, the general public might remember less than half of those #1 hits Taylor has (in my opinion). And I think that will happen because they didnt become organic hits that were actually heavily consumed by the general public. I'd rather have Gaga remain with her very momerable 5 #hits, which were real hits that were everywhere on radio and social media, and are still relevant.

Lol. Artificial success!!!! In what world?  
have you seen the news? There’s nothing artificial, people love her and her music. 
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/17/business/taylor-swift-eras-tour-two-billion/index.html

 

Listen we get it, you don’t like Taylor, just stay away from the Taylor threads. Is that easy, why waste time on a thread on something you clearly don’t like. Is not that deep. Let us fans rejoice on her success. 
 

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43 minutes ago, MessyTop said:

Lol. Artificial success!!!! In what world?  
have you seen the news? There’s nothing artificial, people love her and her music. 
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/17/business/taylor-swift-eras-tour-two-billion/index.html

 

Listen we get it, you don’t like Taylor, just stay away from the Taylor threads. Is that easy, why waste time on a thread on something you clearly don’t like. Is not that deep. Let us fans rejoice on her success. 
 

This is not about me not liking Taylor. I just dont understand why so many of you are just basking in her success, just because. The heights of her success seem manipulated and not organic, at least to some of us.

And lets not do the whole "if you dont agree, dont respond" thing. If this was a Taylor Daily forum, fine, I'd look like a hater and whatever you might want to call me. But we are in GagaDaily. Why should I refrain from voicing my opinion?

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10 hours ago, ImMatt said:

Damn. She's on another level. Not since Michael Jackson or really The Beatles has there been an artist this dominant in music.

 Madonna? her imperial era was the equivalent of combining peak Gaga and current Taylor and spreading it out over the course of decades. We are never again going to have stars who achieve the level of global fame of MJ, The Beatles or Madonna. Gaga's imperial era felt like the last gasp of a truly polarizing superstar who was also a commercial giant.

 

[HeardASine 442]

Watched it last night and had a blast since me and my friend are big fans. I think they made an excellent choice in turning the audience audio feed up in the mix. It helps sell the experience even more.

[nATAH 46,272]

i finally listened to this song cus everybody said it was the perfect pop song and i've never been more let down in my life

a great example of pop mediocrity  

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3 hours ago, C Rose said:

The difference is, Gaga didnt release remixes and versions of Bloody Mary so it could chart better and get to number 1. She let it be. And I feel that is more organic and respectable than inflating the actual consumption of a song.

It gets really boring when some of you mention bitterness. We have been through this already. Nothing about being bitter. I do not wish for Gaga to have this kind of artificial success. In 10 years time, the general public might remember less than half of those #1 hits Taylor has (in my opinion). And I think that will happen because they didnt become organic hits that were actually heavily consumed by the general public. I'd rather have Gaga remain with her very momerable 5 #hits, which were real hits that were everywhere on radio and social media, and are still relevant.

you’re acting like she’s being releasing remixes for weeks. she literally did it for like 5 more points. it was probably going to be number 1 anyway 

[Taylucifer 5,116]

1 hour ago, C Rose said:

This is not about me not liking Taylor. I just dont understand why so many of you are just basking in her success, just because. The heights of her success seem manipulated and not organic, at least to some of us.

And lets not do the whole "if you dont agree, dont respond" thing. If this was a Taylor Daily forum, fine, I'd look like a hater and whatever you might want to call me. But we are in GagaDaily. Why should I refrain from voicing my opinion?

you can have ur opinion but you can't manipulate tour demand in the same way as singles or even albums. @MessyTop gave a pretty clear and comprehensive view of her tour which is most likely going to be the highest grossing ever. She has had unprecedented demand for basically everything she has touched in the last year, that demand can't really be fabricated in the same way sales can, she is driving massive influxes of people to whatever she says. To me that is organic and nobody in 2023 is touching her level of success. 

We bask in her success because 1. we support her 2. we like her music 3. we had a part in said success (however small it may be). It is the same for any artist on the planet and I am sure you do the same for artists you enjoy and support. 

You can voice your opinion but when you are in a Taylor Swift thread about her success there are pretty obviously going to be people who are also swifties in that thread. There is room for discussion of course but it seems like Taylor Swift being successful and existing is aggravating to you so potentially this isn't the place for you, at the end of the day I just want a place to talk about things with people who have common interests in peace. It may be more enjoyable for you to create a thread encouraging talk about Gaga rather than arguing with swifties, but idk

[ImMatt 1,736]

5 hours ago, jaXXXon said:

No, she's not lol. Gaga had more dominance at a time when listening to an album privately at home didn't count towards the hot 100 and had 11 STRAIGHT top 10 hits without the need of remixes and discounts. 

Taylor's song was discounted and she put out two new versions of this song. Gaga would've had a #1 had she done the same with Stupid Love. 

And please. Michael Jackson and The Beatles were dominant in every country and every place without discounts and remixes, while Taylor is weaker than Adele and Gaga during their peak in markets like France, Japan, Poland, Germany and Spain. 

This narrative of her being the new Michael Jackson is just worth a drag or two at this point lol. 

This isn't about one song. It's about the album sales being on another level to everyone else in music. It's about her set to have seven number one albums in four years. It's about tens of thousands of people having a party outside a stadium because they couldn't get tickets inside. Its about her dominating movie theatres despite it only being a concert film (no concert film has ever exceeded $100m) . It's about her being the subject of attention at every Chiefs football game. Need I go on? 

Gaga's success was huge in 2008-11 but I would argue that was different. It was more hype rather than dominace. Hype because of every performance, red carpet and music video, also her being the new 'it girl'. Taylor is 17 years into her career at this point. I'm not comparing her to MJ, that would be ridiculous. I'm saying her success is on par to him around his peak.

Also, I'm not even from the US. I'm from the UK and am not particularly a Taylor Swift fan anyway but you can't ignore what she's achieving right now. 

[ImMatt 1,736]

1 hour ago, 4th Street said:

 Madonna? her imperial era was the equivalent of combining peak Gaga and current Taylor and spreading it out over the course of decades. We are never again going to have stars who achieve the level of global fame of MJ, The Beatles or Madonna. Gaga's imperial era felt like the last gasp of a truly polarizing superstar who was also a commercial giant.

 

I did consider adding Madonna to that list but my understanding of her success was it was steadily strong rather than one period of total dominance which I think of MJ and The Beatles as having. I might be wrong though. Certainly Gaga was the last ' polarising superstar' (I love that phrase btw) and maybe her being polarising was the reason her success at that level didn't last longer 

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deserved. best track off lover 

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10 hours ago, C Rose said:

The way she is being gifted number 1s... Bunch of number 1s that weren't real hits. The desperation with so many remixes and versions...

This is so tiresome and uninteresting. This is what the music industry has turned into. Sad sad sad.

Where are the many remixes? 
she literally released a live version and ONE remix. Stop making things up. Just accept Swifties are streaming and buying the hell out of it. You act like she released 5 remixes, sped up version and so on for cruel summer 

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3 minutes ago, Tinnitus15 said:

Where are the many remixes? 
she literally released a live version and ONE remix. Stop making things up. Just accept Swifties are streaming and buying the hell out of it. You act like she released 5 remixes, sped up version and so on for cruel summer 

tbh she should have just released a sped up version instead of that remix

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2 hours ago, Taylucifer said:

tbh she should have just released a sped up version instead of that remix

Didn’t even listen to it. I just know it’s bad. Imagine a music video 😩😩

[r4therupbeat 1,587]

also number 1 in overall radio in A. And you know songs that hit number one on radio will be in the top 10 for 365 more days now... can we borrow Taylor's management for 1 year? I beg

[LadyxGaGa 1,669]

y’all are so pressed about numbers this statistics that and it’s like why?? genuinely why, are yall accountants. it’s like yall think BIG NUMBERS MEANS GOOD ARTIST 

 

sorry also about taylor releasing remixes and singles and what not. IMAGINE LIKE GENUINELY IMAGINE being a creative and blaming the creative for finding the exploits in a riggef system and being like yeah it’s her fault. not the people who don’t pay artist, writers, producers etc enough that they should have to exploit. not the record company’s who are so far up their own heads that they have a dying thing in their hands and they don’t kno how to revive it because everyone is more worried about how the pie slices and everyone’s cut than making sure yall are fed. IMAGINE 

 

 

like if anything this shows her knowledge of the business and being either within the same step or a step ahead because god forbid an ARTIST tries to play the labels when we kno labels are oh so kind to their artist even at taylor’s caliber who didn’t even get the right to own her own music even after im sure well more than enough money to pay for it