Aglaya 8,398 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I just wanted to clear something about this discussion. There's always this narrative about ARTPOP being her most traumatic era (wich is probably true) and how she "tries to stay away from it because it brings so much trauma to her" but the truth is, no one knows that for sure. Since 2013, she has been singing and performing ARTPOP songs on every single tour or show she has done. Chromatica Ball was the only time any ARTPOP song was left out since the release. I'm sure ARTPOP brings bad memories to Gaga, but this narrative of it being so traumatic nowadays just doesn't make any sense. She performed Applause every night at JWT during 2017-2018, did a full Coachella set in 2017 including Sexxx Dreams, Venus, Applause and even incorporated Partynauseous+Aura+Swine on her intro. She performed Applause AND Aura during Enigma from 2018 to 2022. She shouldn't be forced to sing any other song live from that era if it was really that traumatic for her (you could argue that she's forced by her label to sing Applause since it was the first single from the album, but singing Sexxx Dreams, Venus or Aura seems to be 100% her choice). People usually take the "I don't remember ARTPOP" tweet as a way of proving how traumatic that era is still for her, wich is a wild take cause that tweet was shared during her 2019 "troll" Twitter era, during the time she shared other tweets as the iconic "f" or "What’s fortnight". She also acknowledged Act II petition (wich she could've chosen not to) saying it "warmed her heart". During 2021 and 2022 she commented on a couple of Tiktoks related to the ARTPOP era and called that album "her soul" on a randoms person video. She even let DJWS play the intro instrumental of TEA during JWT back in 2018. During Chromatica promo in 2020 and 2021 she talked about ARTPOP on different interviews including Vogue 'Life in Looks' when she said that album was ahead of it's time. It's much more interesting to talk about how creating Telephone was actually exhausting and tiring for her, as she herself said back in the day. She claimed that "the mixing and the production of that song were really stressful" and also said it was the song that is most difficult for her to listen to, but she still sings it at every pop show since 2010. With this I'm not trying to prove that Act II is coming soon, but I'm getting really tired of the general conversation about ARTPOP as if Gaga was somehow still afraid of that album, or "triggered" every time someone writes "ARTPOP" on the Internet. That's just not true. I'm sure she has a lot of mixed feelings about that time, but I don't think she has negative feelings about the album itself. ARTPOP was always a celebration, and even back in the day she was talking about how that music saved her and was like therapy for her. So please just stop with this false narrative of Gaga hating ARTPOP and crying every time she remembers that album. could mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,772 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Admin said: Right? I will never understand why anyone would want a 2023 release of material that wasn’t good enough to be released in 2013 That’s not exactly what happened though… as far as we know these songs were supposed to be released, they probably weren’t because of the “underperformance” of the first volume And let’s not forget that some of Gaga’s unreleased songs are masterpieces, I’d definitely keep some of them over some of the new tunes Do I think we’ll get ARTPOP ACT II? Absolutely not in the slightest. No new/unreleased material. Not even Brooklyn Nights on streaming services. I do expect another vinyl, a Twitter/Instagram post, eventually a discount on iTunes and a meltdown from DJWS and then the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAYHEMikey 8,090 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I do not really believe that it’s actually coming. Of course as a fan of her music, I’d explode out of happiness for new/unreleased material. But why do some fans act like Gaga is some scared little girl hiding from her past? Sure ARTPOP was a **** time for her but she’s a grown ass woman being in this game for 15 years. This lady has been through some **** already and looking at Chromatica/The Tour she had the balls the past years to face her demons. She already mentioned the not remembering ARTPOP tweet was a social experiment or something. I think what’s standing in the way for volume 2 is the label and legal issues. Wasn’t there like 40 FINISHED songs on Paul’s laptop? Sure, last year he promised us something for 11.11.23 but come on now. enjoy and celebrate the music if it’s coming but don’t get disappointed when nothing comes. And stop harrassing Gaga or her surroundings for some 10yr old dance music. NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,469 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Am I the only one that thinks it isn’t really about the “trauma” or whatever she feels regarding the era as to why it probably won’t happen but that it’s her and her team not really giving damn about doing anything in a timely manner or really pushing a project? If she has a project that her and her team are not in charge of, it all gets pulled off no issue. The second her and Bobby and all the others take over it turns to sh!t 95% of the time. Or she gets hyper focused on something else before finishing the previous project and they don’t force her to focus and follow through because ultimately why would they at this point? They are all getting paid and being a yes man is much easier than pushing her to complete something. So the likelihood of getting anything at all is not great and even then it’s most likely honing to seem like it was last minute and nothing to get overly excited about. That might be a little to much on the negative side but it’s been something I have had in the back of my mind for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGASEXUAL 3,790 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, G U C C I said: Am I the only one that thinks it isn’t really about the “trauma” or whatever she feels regarding the era as to why it probably won’t happen but that it’s her and her team not really giving damn about doing anything in a timely manner or really pushing a project? If she has a project that her and her team are not in charge of, it all gets pulled off no issue. The second her and Bobby and all the others take over it turns to sh!t 95% of the time. Or she gets hyper focused on something else before finishing the previous project and they don’t force her to focus and follow through because ultimately why would they at this point? They are all getting paid and being a yes man is much easier than pushing her to complete something. So the likelihood of getting anything at all is not great and even then it’s most likely honing to seem like it was last minute and nothing to get overly excited about. That might be a little to much on the negative side but it’s been something I have had in the back of my mind for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGASEXUAL 3,790 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, G U C C I said: Am I the only one that thinks it isn’t really about the “trauma” or whatever she feels regarding the era as to why it probably won’t happen but that it’s her and her team not really giving damn about doing anything in a timely manner or really pushing a project? If she has a project that her and her team are not in charge of, it all gets pulled off no issue. The second her and Bobby and all the others take over it turns to sh!t 95% of the time. Or she gets hyper focused on something else before finishing the previous project and they don’t force her to focus and follow through because ultimately why would they at this point? They are all getting paid and being a yes man is much easier than pushing her to complete something. So the likelihood of getting anything at all is not great and even then it’s most likely honing to seem like it was last minute and nothing to get overly excited about. That might be a little to much on the negative side but it’s been something I have had in the back of my mind for a while. I agree, I feel exactly like this too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hopefully she will go the Doja route and intentionally alienate the ARTPOP beggars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaskar 3,946 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Catnikko said: The desperation for some sub par ARTPOP rejects is so tired My thoughts exactly lol People feel strongly about ARTPOP because that era had passion, pain, emotion, drama, fashion et al. The music in itself was average. Not the music but notalgia is what people are craving I guess. ARTPOP isn't in Gaga's top-3 album and the possibility of ACT -II being any better is far less. Instead we should pray for Chromatica Ball DVD and new music (and Oscar nod for her role in Joker lol) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaskar 3,946 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Wallach said: the ARTPOP beggars Ouch...that's mean lol.... The ACT II hopefuls should try spamming Haus Labs review section because I'm pretty sure Gaga must be checking that everyday lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azul 2,099 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Gaga doesn't do re-dos tho. That would be the less Gaga thing ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 9,027 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, GAGASEXUAL said: Honestly, the whole kindness thing has become too annoying at this point. We didn't even get the Chromatica Ball movie (yet). So, I think she has to release ACT II or something else or I'll be really pissed when she appears in another commercial and tries to sell us things. We know that even if she releases it, there will be no promotion anyways. ^ This perfectly encapsulates why Gaga has retreated a bit. Kindness annoys you, which is her entire message. You already expect her execution of ACT II to be lackluster, and you'll be "pissed" either way, so why bother? Gaga has given us 2 films, a soundtrack, 2 albums, a Vegas residency with two shows, a world tour, HMH and SSOH in the past five years. Let's also not forget during this time Gaga went through a breakup and the violent kidnapping of her dogs while dealing with her ongoing health problems. On the way is another film, likely with original music, and another project she's alluded to on IG. To put this into perspective, Ariana Grande hasn't released.....anything since Positions, other than the re-release and Beyonce's most recent album was the first since The Gift in 2019. If the above is not satisfactory to you, I think the issue lies within your expectations of this woman, and why you feel you constantly deserve more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Alberto 1,233 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I need her to tell us something now... whether something comes or nothing comes, but please say!! It will be a very long 23 days for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkGirl 1,472 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Genuinely would be just fine never getting it at this point! It’s over and done with. My. Lawyer. Liked. That. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALittleMonsta 1,529 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, The Z said: That’s not exactly what happened though… as far as we know these songs were supposed to be released, they probably weren’t because of the “underperformance” of the first volume And let’s not forget that some of Gaga’s unreleased songs are masterpieces, I’d definitely keep some of them over some of the new tunes Do I think we’ll get ARTPOP ACT II? Absolutely not in the slightest. No new/unreleased material. Not even Brooklyn Nights on streaming services. I do expect another vinyl, a Twitter/Instagram post, eventually a discount on iTunes and a meltdown from DJWS and then the fans. let's remember the label has a lot of say and is behind a lot of decisions that were made, especially on ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melodean 8,329 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I feel the same way and I’m missing not having Gaga interact with us like used to etc. with all these things, BUT then I remember that she posted a photo on Instagram not long ago saying that she’s been experiencing a new way of being creative but in private. I think as much as this is hard for us fans I do think Gaga has stuff up her sleeve that we are not expecting. We also need to consider that Joker 2 is only next year that will probably come along with new music. So I think we need (including myself) to all chill out a bit https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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