Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bazaar said: It’s easy for you to write this in your comfortable home in whatever country you live far away from here. I wasn’t born here, I’m not Jewish but my great grandfather was and his whole family was murdered in the holocaust. after the holocaust where 6,000,000 Jews were murdered the UN gave this country to the Jewish people BY LAW. And why this land was given to the Jews? Because it always was their land, even in the the Quran it’s written that Israel is the land of Jews. Palestinians didn’t live here “forever”. The sheikh jarrah situation was very sad yes, but Israel took what was theirs in the first place. And again not a single sympathy word from you about what’s happening right now in Israel. More than 250 dead and more than 1,200 injured innocent civilians. and it’s just proving my point that you don’t give a single sh** about humanity and peace. You are justifying murder and terror. but I don’t blame you it’s very trendy these days to be pro Palestine. I just pity you for being so ignorant and brainwashed and here I also added some well edited videos too so you can learn a thing or two (this woman reminds me of people like you lmao) And maybe since you’re so smart and know all about this conflict - answer the question from the last video please. Take your time. Btw you’re also being reported for spreading antisemitism and fake news. Me sitting in a comfortable home not knowing sh-t about this conflict? Are you sure? Well anyway This Holocaust thing, it's not Palestinian business. They didn't commit it, they didn't participate in it, and thus have absolutely no claim whatsoever to be punished for something they didn't commit. The UN isn't a real-state agent and so has absolutely no right in "giving" any country to anyone no matter whoever. Balfour wasn't a real-state agent. Herzl wasn't a real-state agent. None of these people had any right, absolutely any right, in dividing the land of Palestine and forcing their partition plans over the people living in there, only for when the Palestinians reject such nonsense, the Jewish militias would take over lands, displace 700000 people, wipe out entire villages and towns, and create an Americanized colonial state and then call it home to whoever wants to escape from Europe. The Quran didn't say that the land is the land of Jews. It makes a mention Bani Israel (Children of Israel -translation- who were the decedents of Jacob.) The Quran recites the story when Moses promised the people of Israel to acquire the land of Palestine if they enter it (Quran: 5-21). They refused.After that, Moses told them that the land is for God, and God grants it for his pious servants (Quran: 7-128). Read more here: https://www.quora.com/Does-the-Quran-say-that-the-land-of-Israel-is-for-the-Jews Since you mention that you're not a Jew (something I couldn't careless about because this isn't about Jews vs Muslims but rather evil Zionism), I can't help to think how you get to enjoy the land, while some Palestinian who was born here as well as his entire family is living under occupation and racism. Talk about apartheid. I don't understand the connection you're trying to make here between you not being born here and the Holocaust. Palestine is not trend, nor being Palestinian or pro-Palestinian. It's all about humanity and standing on the right of history. Israel is an apartheid system and everyone's getting to see it. Civilians pay the price in every conflict, but those settlers were warned repeatedly about the situation in that area. You don't take someone's land and then expect people not to defend what's theirs. Netanyahu's right government doesn't give a f--k. I can't listen to the video, you may ask well type what you're asking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Meat said: I just find it hard to believe that an Islamic regime will be better than what Israel already is. I’m not supporting the apartheid at all but maybe they could just make two countries? Israel isn't considered about a two-state solution, which has been suggested a million times. If they are, why build more settlements in the West Bank? Why control water, electricity, create checkpoints between Palestinian cities, carry out daily arrests and killings? See the problem here is this is a reality of Palestinians living under occupation. None of this is about Hamas, especially in the West Bank, where the PA governs. 10 minutes ago, ALittleMonsta said: Sorry to be involved but if i read your last statement correctly you are saying that lgbt rights in the middle east are not as bad as we think? So here are countries that do have deah punishments for being gay: Yemen Iran Qatar Sudan Saudi Arabia Well, you may not see pride parades in those countries, yes, but but some of these countries have issues with women rights as well. I made that statement in response to anyone making a mention of LGBT rights in the Middle East to undermine or shed away the attention from Palestine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 This whole conflict is stupid. Israel is a genocidal colonizer nation, Hamas is killing innocent civilians. Currently? F*ck 'em both. Palestinians deserve to live on their land without being pushed out or living with all this violence around them. Israeli citizens too deserve peace and a government that won't martyr them for this cause. Anyway, I'm locking this thread for now since reports are piling up and there's a lot of venom coming out. People need to chill. My heart goes out only to the people who are just trying to live their goddamn lives despite the fear of maniacs from either side sending a bomb or combatants into their house. Humanity is so f*cking stupid. All this pain, suffering, death, and trauma for some manufactured invisible lines on a map when they could just live together. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 K, reports are cleared. Proceed. Please be respectful with each other and keep on topic. This isn't the space to be attacking people. Attack the organizations/governments involved if you feel you have to lash out at something. We're all just meat bags trying to get through life. Before you post, remember, regardless of history or "right and wrong", there are people on both sides of this conflict that have not done anything to deserve the terror they experience every day. They wonder if they or someone they love will be killed because of decades' old decisions made by the UN, modern decisions by the government, or angry whims of an organization. These are people. Real human lives. Let's be kind. Peace ✌️ Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, PartySick said: This whole conflict is stupid. Israel is a genocidal colonizer nation, Hamas is killing innocent civilians. Currently? F*ck 'em both. Palestinians deserve to live on their land without being pushed out or living with all this violence around them. Israeli citizens too deserve peace and a government that won't martyr them for this cause. But this isn't an equal conflict, dear. There is an oppressed side, and an oppressor. An occupier, and an occupied group of people. You can't put the two in the same picture. This has been going on since 1948, Hamas is like 2007. Why ignore all the atrocities Israel is committing in the West Bank (where Hamas doesn't exist) and pretend that all Palestine and Israel fight about is Gaza? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, ALittleMonsta said: Right, the way israel was formed is really imperfect. There were peace offerings to give some land to form israel, but of course there was denial and after a few more peace offerings israel went and aggressively took a lot of the land to shape itself. Correct me if any of my words are historically inaccurate. There are justifiable reasons to be angry at the way israel was formed. And a lot of non jewish people who live here feel like they don't belong here because of stupid rules or the country anthem or logos not correlating to them and being a jews only thing, there's a rule that states that this country is a country for the jews and only the jews. There are minorities here, who feel they are excluded. I do wish in my lightest heart that israel would consider helping the minorities (like arabs) feel more included, feel like they belong. But I do wish people realize that longing to the anger created from the existence of israel is dragged on for too long, and is causing chaos. There's no point in this war, i wish people would move on or have peace for the enemy. the only important thing to note is that the UN 1948 partition plan was accepted by the Jews who were living in Israel at that time, and rejected by the Palestinians, who decided to start a war which they lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Israel has every right to defend itself against these atrocities in every possible way. This attack was so sudden and out of nowhere. I hope the Western world will support Israel as much as they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,614 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Meat said: You said “some” Islamic countries are “mean” towards the gays and I thought I should correct you that “all” of them “want to kill” the gays. Nothing more than that. Nowhere did I justify apartheid. 1 hour ago, Meat said: You said “some” Islamic countries are “mean” towards the gays and I thought I should correct you that “all” of them “want to kill” the gays. Nothing more than that. Nowhere did I justify apartheid. Corrections only work if you're correct, and your gross generalizations are far from it. And yeah, your words are indirectly justifying apartheid. Idk why you insist on responding to me when I've stated plainly I don't have time for you. Just proving my initial point further. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: Corrections only work if you're correct, and your gross generalizations are far from it. And yeah, your words are indirectly justifying apartheid. Idk why you insist on responding to me when I've stated plainly I don't have time for you. Just proving my initial point further. 11 out of 11 countries that have a death penalty for being gay are to one’s surprise, all Islamic nations. But maybe I’m still generalising an entire religion if Roughhouse Dandy on a pop forum says so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bambino said: But this isn't an equal conflict, dear. There is an oppressed side, and an oppressor. An occupier, and an occupied group of people. You can't put the two in the same picture. This has been going on since 1948, Hamas is like 2007. Why ignore all the atrocities Israel is committing in the West Bank (where Hamas doesn't exist) and pretend that all Palestine and Israel fight about is Gaza? Nowhere did I say they were equal. I literally referred to Israel as a genocidal colonizer nation. That still doesn't justify a terrorist group attacking civilians nor do I consider said terrorist group to be part of the proper Palestinian resistance to Israel's atrocities. Like, I'm not knowledgeable enough on the history of the region or current state of either side to really debate this topic so I won't but I am intelligent enough to see two groups flinging bombs and rockets at each other and a bunch of innocents dying in the middle. I probably won't be posting in this thread again so take my thoughts, disregard them, it's up to you. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Bambino said: Civilians pay the price in every conflict, but those settlers were warned repeatedly about the situation in that area. You don't take someone's land and then expect people not to defend what's theirs. Netanyahu's right government doesn't give a f--k. I can't listen to the video, you may ask well type what you're asking about. Are you serious? The civilians that were killed weren't even settlers. The villages next to Gaza are not settlements. Do your research better next time and have a little of sympathy in your heart. Just a little. The audacity to call it an "emotional day" in regards to the freedom of Palestine when such a horrific tragedy happened where hundreds of people died, thousand injured and several kidnapped and abused, is truly an abomination and you should be ashamed of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I'm shocked by the amount of people trying to justify barbarism and terrorism in this thread. You can support Palestinian statehood but what justifies kidnapping moms with their babies in their arms? What justifies stripping women naked in the street and parading them? India, South Africa and many other nations achieved justice for themselves without this crap. Palestinians could choose a different route. Those who try to justify this, y'all are sick no offense. I don't know how you got brainwashed, but you need help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ronlop said: Are you serious? The civilians that were killed weren't even settlers. The villages next to Gaza are not settlements. Do your research better next time and have a little of sympathy in your heart. Just a little. The audacity to call it an "emotional day" in regards to the freedom of Palestine when such a horrific tragedy happened where hundreds of people died, thousand injured and several kidnapped and abused, is truly an abomination and you should be ashamed of yourself. Oh, I don't see you showing sympathy to the 200 Palestinians who were killed by Israeli airstrikes just now. I don't see you talking condemnation when it's about Palestinian lives? There's always an excuse. 'Oh they started it,' 'They were there', 'they were told to leave and they didn't' Where do you come off telling people how to feel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 https://x.com/elad_si/status/1710698825118032094?s=46&t=SlY3Ces2DQn3SqpbhYbPfA I have no words. really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I’m shocked at the violence that this country received. The pics of the dead Israeli woman being spitted is marked in my brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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