Roughhouse Dandy 13,614 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, faysalaaa1 said: Irans openly says their biggest goal is to end Israel and destroy it. Iran also controls Hamas and Lebanon's Hezbollah. This explains why Lebanons Hezbollah is getting involved in this. Lebanon was even once occupied by Israel for a short period of time! Iran is Israels biggest threat! Also, Arabs dont view other Arabic countries as a different countries, we all see each other as one. Understood. Thank you very much đ This is my Hannah Montanaâ˘ď¸ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Admin said: Whatâs the difference between a blockade and a country closing its border with another country? If, for example, Germany decides to close its border with Poland, would it be a blockade? What kind of blockade are you talking here? Israel has impose an ongoing land, sea, and air blockade on the Gaza Strip since 2017 til now. This has tragically affected life in Gaza, becoming like an open air prison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bambino said: What kind of blockade are you talking here? Israel has impose an ongoing land, sea, and air blockade on the Gaza Strip since 2017 til now. This has tragically affected life in Gaza, becoming like an open air prison. The last sentence is what my initial confusion was about. I keep seeing people call Gaza an open air prison, but you just said that the border with Egypt is not closed and people can leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaar 5,752 Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Admin said: The last sentence is what my initial confusion was about. I keep seeing people call Gaza an open air prison, but you just said that the border with Egypt is not closed and people can leave? They can leave through the Egyptian border but they need authorization from Hamas and the approval can take months. There also thousands of civilians from Gaza who have entry permits that allows them to work in Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I stand with Israel đŽđąÂ Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, XCX World said: That's not only their home tho? Jewish people are native to this land as well. So your logic has flaws. And it's not only about it being the holy land. There are countless of evidance, from recent history and far, to prove that Jewish people are native to this land. Oh so if a person who is a Jew, or converts to Judaism, who lives in the US and so have his ancestors for decades, has more claim to the lands of Palestine more than its indigenous residents aka the Palestinians themselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, XCX World said: It's not about having ancestors or converting to Judaism. Jewish people are an ethnic group who were always present in the land. Even you agreed that during the Ottoman empire and the British mandate there were always Jewish people in the land. And they weren't living happily with their neighbours(there were many massacars against the Jewish community). Both of the groups wanted to establish a state in the land. So yes, it is not "a land that got stolen", it's more about being greedy. Palestine was under the British mandate, the root to all problems in the world, which, once it was ending, should have brought independence to the country it withdrew from, but the Zionist militias had another say. In that era, Muslims lived in Palestine but didn't demand an all-Muslim state, Christians lived in Palestine but didn't demand an-all Christian state? Why should Jews get a special treatment and a false claim to an entire country and cry when people won't agree to their lunatic term? They could've very much co-existed with Muslims and Christians but the greed and supremacy led to the world's biggest political question as of today: PALESTINE. If only social media existed in 1948. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, XCX World said: There is no sense in calling Gaza like that, they just like to shift the blame towards Israel cause it's much easier to do so. Egypt is usualy the one who negotiate for ceasefires but basically they do nothing for the Palestinians themselves. Â Edit: I read what blockade is (sorry English isn't my first language) and till the war there was no blockade so like what??? Palestinian who lives in Gaza literally come everyday (and about one week before the war that number was increased at the Palestinian request) to work in Israel, Israel sales electricity at a fixed price to the Gaza strip, and apart for the checkpoints (which I think are very understandable) there is no blockade. Gaza citizens can't go into Israel without an approval but considering the many terror attacks that happened before it's VERY reasonable. Read: https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5541/A-generation-under-blockade:-Consequences-of-Israelâs-17-year-blockade-of-the-Gaza-Strip And @Admin too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,546 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Admin said: The last sentence is what my initial confusion was about. I keep seeing people call Gaza an open air prison, but you just said that the border with Egypt is not closed and people can leave? Israel is blocking food, medicine and other products from entering Gaza, many times the hospitals has a lack of medicines, Egypt is also trash and occasionally blocking their border. The sea border of Gaza is very small, so even fishing is limited, if they cross it, they are bombed. Israel destroyed the airport in Gaza, so they can't leave through the air. Israel controls their electricity and internet, sometimes leaving them for days without both. Israel can enter and exit Gaza and the west bank as they like, can knock on your door and take you, your kids, violently, no questions asked. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, XCX World said: It didn't withdrew from a country, and there was no co-exsitance here to create one country, but I think you and logic don't go well together so Idk if I should keep bother. Also, no need for social medias, many stories about massacars that happened in the land before 1948 are enough to prove my point. All I can read from your responses is supremacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, XCX World said: Take reading lessons thenđ¤ˇââď¸ Yeah when you take some history lessons as well. You having the nerve to mention massacres before 1948 and ignoring my mention of 1948 in reference to the Nakba is something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaar 5,752 Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, River said: Israel is blocking food, medicine and other products from entering Gaza, many times the hospitals has a lack of medicines, Egypt is also trash and occasionally blocking their border. The sea border of Gaza is very small, so even fishing is limited, if they cross it, they are bombed. Israel destroyed the airport in Gaza, so they can't leave through the air. Israel controls their electricity and internet, sometimes leaving them for days without both. Israel can enter and exit Gaza and the west bank as they like, can knock on your door and take you, your kids, violently, no questions asked. The amount of lies here is outrageous. you really believe this or youâre just trying to be shocking? what is your purpose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, XCX World said: Nah I took mine. Also I didn't ignore it. I asked you who started the "nakba", or the 1948 war? Hint: not the evil zionist. What kind of toxic approach is this? You are clearly brainwashed it's just so sad. So you're saying if Arabs agreed to the UN partition plan none of this would've happened? Okay, what about the Oslo Accords and the 1967 borders? Palestinians agreed to that, why hasn't Israel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,546 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bazaar said: The amount of lies here is outrageous. you really believe this or youâre just trying to be shocking? what is your purpose? That's the truth, deal with it. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaar 5,752 Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, River said: That's the truth, deal with it. But itâs clearly not the truth - so nothing to deal with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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