Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Bambino said: Honey, Israel is the reason why Hamas exists in the first place. Even if you were to be correct, does it matter? Hamas did it. Why can't you just condemn them for their cruel actions against innocent civilians? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,614 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Meat said: 11 out of 11 countries that have a death penalty for being gay are to one’s surprise, all Islamic nations. But maybe I’m still generalising an entire religion if Roughhouse Dandy on a pop forum says so. So because those 11 countries are Islamic nations, all Islamic communities are to be demonized? All of a sudden anything the Israeli government has done to those people is fair game? Grow up. And again... *That has nothing to do with the topic at hand* But keep directing your ignorance towards someone who has told you multiple times they don't want your input; you seem like a real winner 👍🏼 This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Bambino said: I'll give you that, have you looked into their reasons if there are any? Why now? Why during that era? Why not before? Enlighten me, history daddy. 1. The well-publicized Arab-Jewish clash in Mandatory Palestine from 1936 to 1939, and the rise of Nazi Germany, began to affect Jewish relations with Egyptian society, despite the fact that the number of active Zionists was small.[229] 2. Local militant and nationalistic societies, like the Young Egypt Partyand the Society of Muslim Brothers, circulated reports claiming that Jews and the British were destroying holy places in Jerusalem, and other false reports that hundreds of Arab women and children were being killed.[230] 3. Some of this antisemitism was fueled by an association between Hitler's regime and anti-imperialist Arab activists. Palestinian leader, Haj Amin al-Husseini, received Nazi funds for the Muslim Brotherhood to print and distribute thousands of anti-Semitic propaganda pamphlets.[230] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Ronlop said: Even if you were to be correct, does it matter? Hamas did it. Why can't you just condemn them for their cruel actions against innocent civilians? There is no IF I'm to be correct, because I am correct. If someone's bullying you, you defend yourself. Why is it only okay to say that when Israel fights but not when Palestinians up rise against occupation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bambino said: sounds exactly the same way the state of Israel was created in 1948. Nakba says save it, sweetie! Just because Israel does it (killing civilians), doesnt mean its okay for Palestinians to do it. Your logic is exactly how terrorists justify their actions. Im confused even as an anti Israel Muslim Arab myself, how can you make excuses for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Bambino said: There is no IF I'm to be correct, because I am correct. If someone's bullying you, you defend yourself. Why is it only okay to say that when Israel fights but not when Palestinians up rise against occupation? But the innocent civilians, among them mothers and kids, did not bully the Palestinians and did not actively attack the Palestinians. Why do they deserve to be slaughtered, abused, kidnapped and killed? That is not self defence, that is cruelty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, faysalaaa1 said: Just because Israel does it, doesnt mean its okay for Palestinians to do it. Your logic is exactly how terrorists justify their actions. Im confused even as an anti Israel Muslim Arab myself, how can you make excuses for it? Thank you!! Let hope this will make sense to him. Either way, I reported him. I don't think there is a place for these kind of twisted opinions, especially not now during this sensitive time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bambino said: Why is it only okay to say that when Israel fights but not when Palestinians up rise against occupation? So you are supporting the killing of innocent civilians? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronlop said: But the innocent civilians, among them mothers and kids, did not bully the Palestinians and did not actively attack the Palestinians. Why do they deserve to be slaughtered, abused, kidnapped and killed? That is not self defence, that is cruelty. They not only support this but encourage it. I’m reading posts on twitter that say things like, “each non-muslim you kill will bring you closer to heaven.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, faysalaaa1 said: Just because Israel does it, doesnt mean its okay for Palestinians to do it. Your logic is exactly how terrorists justify their actions. Im confused even as an anti Israel Muslim Arab myself, how can you make excuses for it? Spare me the moral lessons, Angelina Jolie! By international law, any people under military occupation have the right to armed resistance to defend themselves. When Israel launches an assault against Palestinians, the world jumps to scream that Israel has the right to defend themselves. Palestinians also have the right to defend themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: 3. One can be both pro-Palestine and anti-terrorism. Those two are not one and the same. Hamas is Hamas and Palestine is Palestine. Hamas just so happens to control Gaza, but the people of Palestine did not put them there or elect them to it. Any attempt to conflate the two is not based in reality but rather another agenda that is rooted in a completely different subject entirely. As much as I wish this was true, it simply isn't. It simply isn't factual. Palestinians did elect Hamas. And as a matter of fact, FATAH (the other faction which controls the West Bank) keeps delaying elections there because they are afraid that Hamas will win there too. We can try to be untruthful and idealist and claim for example that Putin is not supported by Russians, or HAMAS is not supported by Palestinians. But the reality is different. Yes extremist groups/politicians can have popular support. And both Putin and Hamas do. The question becomes, why do people support them? It's indoctrination, anger etc.. But to say that they don't have significant popular support is not factual. Anger creates vile extremists. Harsh Versailles treaty conditions created Hitler. USSR collapse created Putin. And Israeli occupation created Hamas. But while we can point to these catalyst events, we should never use them as justification for the actions committed by these vile individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Meat said: They not only support this but encourage it. I’m reading posts on twitter that say things like, “each non-muslim you kill will bring you closer to heaven.” Right now I only see Hamas supporters celebrating the slaughter of 300 innocent people. Not the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Melech said: So you are supporting the killing of innocent civilians? Awwwww, where were you when Palestinians get killed, humanity queen? I remember VERY WELL you only repeating that "Israel has the right to defend itself" during the Gaza wars. What about the Palestinian civilians? They don't matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Ronlop said: Right now I only see Hamas supporters celebrating the slaughter of 300 innocent people. Not the other way around. Yes I’m agreeing with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Bambino said: Spare me the moral lessons, Angelina Jolie! By international law, any people under military occupation have the right to armed resistance to defend themselves. When Israel launches an assault against Palestinians, the world jumps to scream that Israel has the right to defend themselves. Palestinians also have the right to defend themselves. LOOL So you still see this as an act of defense. Got it. I hope you'll get banned from this forum. Your dangerous and insensitive opinions may affect members who were involved in today's horrifying incidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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