The Eras era, biggest era since?

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Well if you take a decade worth of work and put it together…yeah definitely big 

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13 hours ago, rinasawachanta said:

Gurl, it is not an insult, it is a word that integrates the vast universe of language and symbolism and, as such, does not "go out of style" lol.

The Taylor reference  

 

but fine whatever haha

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so far, the biggest female pop era in terms of album sales, hit singles, and big stadium shows was Madonna's 1987-1990 era.

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On 8/11/2023 at 9:28 AM, abc123321 said:

it's breaking old records because back in the day you were not paying thousands of dollars for tickets, most were under a hundred or even less
and when you wanted to listen to an old song, you played your cd/vinyl, nobody was counting every listen as a statistic for the charts

you cannot compare now to the old days

This is what kinda gets me annoyed a bit 'cause it's often my fave's records being broken

And like, I'm good with MJ passing the torch and all but when it comes to pure adjusted revenue, do you really get credit when your price tag is simply 5-10 times as big?

The Weeknd recently broke one of MJ's touring records for revenue but his tour literally has 25% the attendance. His tickets are just hella expensive by comparison 

On 8/11/2023 at 9:31 AM, Bat said:

Since Thriller perhaps? I wasn't around but always hear stories from old people that that also was unprecedented

I stg if she or anyone else ever takes his "best selling album of all time" record, I'll cry

I don't think it'll happen 'cause of the nature of streaming and sales these days but I'd like at least one tangible record to hold onto as a Moonwalker

STOP TAYLOR NOW

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14 hours ago, 4th Street said:

Michael Jacksons Thriller Era was equal from a commercial standpoint with the arrival of the music video but he never inspired such die hard devotion

I disagree

There was a joke for decades among the celebrity world that "Michael, he's a nice guy. But his fans? Ruthless"

There's a reason the iconic crowd fainting gifs are all from his shows

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13 hours ago, ChicaSkas said:

Awwwww be nice.... one thing I discovered In her music ever since September when @PartySick played me a song for the first time.... is that there is something in her lyrics for everyone. 

Also, over the past 3 months I have read the whole Gaylor conspiracy and I'm convinced hook line and sinker that she is 100% bi at the very minimum. There's more to her than blandness. I never thought I'd say that but I mean it. She's a grower, not a shower, her music grows on you. 

My current favorite is the slow burn jazz song about cunninglingus from the Lover album. 

How dare you credit me for your Swiftie status

Especially 'cause she was a flash in the pan fad for me. I liked her music for all of a few months before I got bored and unliked everything on Spotify

Though, I think the only real criticism I have of her is...what is her influence? She sells a lot but who's naming Taylor as their inspiration?

Other legends like MJ, Madonna, Janet, Prince, even Gaga have their styles and artistry bleed through other artists but I feel like when Taylor's gone her only legacy will be a large bank account and high sales numbers

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On 8/11/2023 at 8:41 AM, Gagaism said:

It’s definitely the biggest, the most different era of all time by a singer, I mean nobody never did it like she’s doing. And we still have 1989, rep and self title albums to be released while the tour keeps on going, a lot of chart peaks and whatever numbers you can call still coming on the way. 

And I personally think she will drop another new album before all of the Taylor’s Versions are done being released 

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4 hours ago, holy scheisse said:

The Taylor reference  

 

but fine whatever haha

Say whaaaaat?

What do you mean

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10 minutes ago, rinasawachanta said:

Say whaaaaat?

What do you mean

 

You got that james dean daydream look in your eye
and I got that red lip classic thing that you like
and when we go crashing down we come back everytime
we never

18 hours ago, rinasawachanta said:

"go out of style"

we never
 

18 hours ago, rinasawachanta said:

"go out of style"

 

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1 minute ago, holy scheisse said:

 

You got that james dean daydream look in your eyes
and I got that red lip classic thing that you like
and when we come crashing down we come back everytime
we never

we never
 

 

Omg lol. I thought it was just an expression un English. Is it because it's not my native language? 

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Meanwhile in my country she has a very hard time having even a slight hit single, it's so strange for me to read comparaisons with MJ. I believe one of her most popular song here is the one with Zayn. 

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18 minutes ago, rinasawachanta said:

Omg lol. I thought it was just an expression un English. Is it because it's not my native language? 

Nooo, it is just an expression, Taylor didn’t make it up. Just a coincidence you used it here haha

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what goes up, must come down

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4 hours ago, PartySick said:

How dare you credit me for your Swiftie status

Especially 'cause she was a flash in the pan fad for me. I liked her music for all of a few months before I got bored and unliked everything on Spotify

Though, I think the only real criticism I have of her is...what is her influence? She sells a lot but who's naming Taylor as their inspiration?

Other legends like MJ, Madonna, Janet, Prince, even Gaga have their styles and artistry bleed through other artists but I feel like when Taylor's gone her only legacy will be a large bank account and high sales numbers

Honestly I think we’re just now getting to a point where we’ll see the artists she inspired. She was huge before this, but I wouldn’t say given what we know now that her imperial era was what we all thought (1989). 

Artists that leave an impact on future generations usually do so in an era like that and she’s just now in it. Her mark currently exists mostly in the alt girls (Gracie Abrams, MUNA, Maisie Peters etc), but I think moving forward we’ll begin to see more mainstream acts like Olivia who’re citing Taylor. 

It’ll just take some time because this era is brand new for her and I feel the artists most inspired by what’s happening right now haven’t yet become artists. 

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6 minutes ago, Future Lovers said:

Honestly I think we’re just now getting to a point where we’ll see the artists she inspired. She was huge before this, but I wouldn’t say given what we know now that her imperial era was what we all thought (1989). 

Artists that leave an impact on future generations usually do so in an era like that and she’s just now in it. Her mark currently exists mostly in the alt girls (Gracie Abrams, MUNA, Maisie Peters etc), but I think moving forward we’ll begin to see more mainstream acts like Olivia who’re citing Taylor. 

It’ll just take some time because this era is brand new for her and I feel the artists most inspired by what’s happening right now haven’t yet become artists. 

But what is that influence though? That's what I am confusion over

I can listen to certain artists or watch the way they move and instantly tell they were influenced by MJ.

I can see how some artists dress and carry themselves and instantly see Lady Gaga.

I can see other artists and how they express themselves and instantly see Madonna or Prince.

I can hear some styles of artists' songs and instantly hear Elvis, The Beatles, or Chuck Berry.

But what is that thing that's so quintessentially "Taylor Swift" that it'll be recognizable in other artists? What even is her identity as an artist beyond being popular? Other than selling a lot, what is she doing that no other artist can do? What will the next generation of artists see in her, replicate, and evolve beyond where she left it? In 50 years, when new artists are on the scene, what will we see that will make us think of Taylor Swift?

I'll flat out admit that I hate her for no good reason but a lack of a genuine, unique artistic identity is a legit criticism I have in regards to her.