julz 7,995 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 This video snippet makes me feel that Gaga wanted Tony to be there if she releases a jazz project on her own.. but that wont happen now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, julz said: This video snippet makes me feel that Gaga wanted Tony to be there if she releases a jazz project on her own.. but that wont happen now. I feel like maybe theres an unreleased duet between the two, that could be released in her next Jazz record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Time Around 5,006 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Tony Bennett is irreplacable, he did not pass his torch onto anyone. Here is your throat back, thanks for the loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicaSkas 24,008 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, sillynate said: They never made an original jazz song together 💔 Paradise, possibly Do YOU own the 4' by 6' Perfect Illusion promo Poster? Will pay you for it. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/UWuzumk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfMark 4,291 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, sillynate said: They never made an original jazz song together 💔 I thought they did? but it was never put on Cheek To Cheek. Paradise or something like that. -Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 79,783 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I think whether or not he "passed the torch" to Gaga is no one's prerogative but Tony's and his family. If his son said that he metaphorically passed the torch to Gaga, then he did. But clearly, Gaga doesn't want that kind of acclaim, which is also her prerogative as well. Whatever the case, the most important thing is the relationship they had together and just how close they were. It's clear that Tony provided great mentorship for Gaga and that she valued and loved him deeply. That's worth more than whether or not people believe Tony symbolically "passed the torch" to her. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 44,890 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 They each hold their own torches. It doesn't need to be passed because there are unlimited torches to go around Something something metaphor about the light it creates when everyone is allowed to hold their own torch instead of passing one around blah blah blah I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 13,509 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Nooooo no no. She’s wonderful, but she dips her toe into jazz while being a pop star. Tony was a jazz singer/artist. That’s a very different thing. She definitely has helped repopularize the genre but tbh what she performs and sings is mostly out of step with the jazz industry. She doesn’t really move jazz forward so much as honor its tradition. That’s a wonderful thing in itself but a torch holder needs to keep blazing trails for the art not exclusively giving flowers to the runners before them. That’s the difference. I loooove her jazz work. I do. And she’s wonderful, but someone like Amy Winehouse moved the industry. Someone like Cécil McLorin Salvant who, while less mainstream, is at the top of the jazz game rn continuing to push things ahead in new ways. So when Gaga does that then sure, I think she can be a torch holder. And I hope she does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG666 1,931 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 No. There's no torch to pass; Tony was in a league of his own and so is Gaga. They had beautiful collaborations and she also didn't believe she was getting a "torch" passed down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 19 hours ago, Controversiaga said: I wouldn’t say he did. Gaga has never released a solo jazz project. The only thing we really ever got was Jazz and Piano in Vegas. Other than that, I would not compare her jazz career to Tony’s. Their jazz careers are very similar because Tony introduced The Great American Songbook to a new generation and that’s exactly what Gaga did. The conversation of “original” jazz music has no place here because Tony was famous for reinventing previously existing songs and not writing new ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 13,575 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, Meat said: Their jazz careers are very similar because Tony introduced The Great American Songbook to a new generation and that’s exactly what Gaga did. The conversation of “original” jazz music has no place here because Tony was famous for reinventing previously existing songs and not writing new ones. I didn’t say anything about “original” jazz music. Their jazz careers are different because Gaga’s only came to fruition because of Tony, despite her always having a love for jazz music, she never did it without tony. Tonys whole career is all jazz. They’re very different Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 they passed the torch to us. for us to enjoy and make this music alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I don’t think the whole ‘torch passing’ concept is applicable here. She’s definitely opened Jazz music up to a lot of people who probably would never have become as familiar with it as they are today, but she’s not going to dedicate her career to Jazz music like Tony did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Hopefully she receives all the love and humbleness that is needed to protect her grieving process. It must be a very difficult time for her now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonkey 639 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I don’t think it should be taken that seriously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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