newtti 156 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Until there is something 'official', we will never know the truth. I don't like him because I think he is an awful coreographer, but this whole 'trust the potential victim no matter what' is getting really tiring. People do lie, and they do that all the time. Be it for defending themselves or for attacking other people. Trashing someone's life (because calling someone an abuser is trashing that person) just because somebody said so, is really not fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 4,466 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 10:39 PM, LilyLark said: Again, the dancer didn't accuse him of sexual abuse. It was one fan claiming one dancer sent them a DM. Sigh. He sucks, but come on. if its not SA, the the 12 dancers quitting claiming hes a toxic boss is more than enough reason to not work with him theres thousands of choreopgrahers out there who can bring fresh choreo to gagas tours, she cannot preach about protecting peoples mental health when the cancer is right there within her team. and im pretty sure one of her OG dancers michael silas actually did come out and say he SAed him so im gonna believe that dancers especially since it was so weird why he quit during the height of gagas relevance - richie is the problem PLUS hes not even a good choreographer, we havent had anything good since laurieanne gibson (even tho she was toxic too) atleast she gave memorable choreo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 48,688 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, newtti said: Until there is something 'official', we will never know the truth. I don't like him because I think he is an awful coreographer, but this whole 'trust the potential victim no matter what' is getting really tiring. People do lie, and they do that all the time. Be it for defending themselves or for attacking other people. Trashing someone's life (because calling someone an abuser is trashing that person) just because somebody said so, is really not fine. 10+ people having the same story/agreeing with accusations is a strong indication that there's truth to it, it's not just one angry person mad at richy mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,747 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 hours ago, newtti said: People do lie, and they do that all the time. Be it for defending themselves or for attacking other people. you've just summed up Richy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtti 156 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 hours ago, NATAH said: 10+ people having the same story/agreeing with accusations is a strong indication that there's truth to it, it's not just one angry person mad at richy And many others have not said a thing. Does this mean that there is truth to the fact that he is innocent? No. Just as people speaking against him is not proof of him being guilty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanlittlem 45,548 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I can't at Richy saying he wanted something different for the choreos this tour and thats why some dancers didnt get the call when we all saw the choreos have been the same they've done for 10 years Estàvem al cel, ara estem a l'infern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 48,688 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, newtti said: And many others have not said a thing. Does this mean that there is truth to the fact that he is innocent? No. Just as people speaking against him is not proof of him being guilty. they haven't exactly ran to his defence either to help prove his innocence which also says a lot... mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,127 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 12:45 PM, Juanlittlem said: He posted a selfie with a message saying something like "People will show you who they are even if you try to make excuses for them. Their actions will be the truth" "Find your personal happiness removing negative people around you" Maybe he's actually team richy and his post was in support of richy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 He is *obviously* guilty I hope Gaga parts ways with him. I know they’re friends, but he’s quite obviously an awful person & she should think with her head not her heart re: keeping him on. His choreos are so average as well.. she needs someone new who can really challenge her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,095 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Monstermilo said: if its not SA, the the 12 dancers quitting claiming hes a toxic boss is more than enough reason to not work with him theres thousands of choreopgrahers out there who can bring fresh choreo to gagas tours, she cannot preach about protecting peoples mental health when the cancer is right there within her team. and im pretty sure one of her OG dancers michael silas actually did come out and say he SAed him so im gonna believe that dancers especially since it was so weird why he quit during the height of gagas relevance - richie is the problem PLUS hes not even a good choreographer, we havent had anything good since laurieanne gibson (even tho she was toxic too) atleast she gave memorable choreo I agree. He sounds very toxic. My point was the fans slinging around SA allegations is...troubling...considering the racial dynamics, the fact that no one actually made an allegation, and that Rolling Stone investigated and found nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Shadow 1,171 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 idk what to think but its none of my buisness and tbh im glad because idk what to think like im confused... did it happen or not?? "I hope that you will love me in this way For who I am—not then—but for today" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 3:04 PM, PartySick said: There was one SA allegation and it was made up by a Gaga fan. All other allegations are of him being an asshole, which isn't a crime and clearly many dancers will put up with it 'cause it's kind of an "industry standard" for choreographers. I think he should change his ways, be a bit softer, but I definitely agree that if those dancers had a spot on TCB stage, there would have been no drama This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 11:06 PM, BlackFluid said: LG is past the need for choreography at this point anyway. It makes everything feel lame and outdated. Bye Richy! i'm here for that. i always said let the dancers dance and let the singer sing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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