LittleMonster20 9,788 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I just genuinely think the vocals, lyrics and especially the music on I Wanna Be With You is way better than that of Dope. Dope is a good song as well, it’s just that I way prefer IWBWY. Do you agree or disagree? And why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyduck 1,117 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I think Dope is in there to fit the theme of the album and it sounds and lyrically like Gaga. I Wanna Be With U You doesn't sound like a Gaga song at all (at the time ofc, IWBUY could be an ASIB or Joanne song) keep on looking for Psyduck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxine Puth 9,052 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 It definitely has more replay value than Dope But Dope serves an important message after Mary Jane Holland. I think having them both be on would’ve been the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxine Puth 9,052 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Psyduck said: I think Dope is in there to fit the theme of the album and it sounds and lyrically like Gaga. I Wanna Be With U You doesn't sound like a Gaga song at all (at the time ofc, IWBUY could be an ASIB or Joanne song) In my opinion IWBWY is BTW coded, by the end of the song it has that The Queen arena rock vibe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,725 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 It's a cheesy fan service song. Cute to play on tour. But "Dope" is a blistering universal ballad. A much better lyric. Now...."Princess Die" deserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M i K E Y 7,352 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Dope was better for the album itself but to me IWBWY is the superior version Spoiler But I adore Dope for its rawness. Her vocals. Her words. Her heart. Pure honesty here. I love the kinda off beat deep synth bass in the background. The vein of the album is still pulsing even in the piano ballad of the album. Then Gypsy following with the piano but in a happier tune. It was clearly the better choice. I wish IWBWY would be released as a B-Side. NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KubaM316 13,611 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Maxine Puth said: It definitely has more replay value than Dope But Dope serves an important message after Mary Jane Holland. I think having them both be on would’ve been the best option. Totally, Dope fits perfectly after Mary Jane Holland and I cannot imagine it being any differently. IWBWY could be a bonus track or something and imo it is kinda better than Dope, but ARTPOP without Dope would simply not feel the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railing 2,366 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I disagree. I think Dope having "worse"/rawer vocals was necessary. It becomes the most vulnerable and honest point in the record, in a way that I Wanna Be With U is a bit more processed and typical for a ballad. Dope also fits extraordinarily well after MJH. MJH was written at the peak of her addictions, while Dope apologizes for how her addictions have affected those close to her, both songs utilizing weed as a focal point. I think having that kind of realization/"rock bottom" moment makes the album feel more cinematic, and like it has more of a story arc going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 43,128 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, Psyduck said: I Wanna Be With U You doesn't sound like a Gaga song at all (at the time ofc, IWBUY could be an ASIB or Joanne song) heavy disagree, gaga had done rock before joanne mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 4,162 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I prefer Dope, always have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia 6,025 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I Wanna Be With You's lyrics are so bland and corny to me, whereas Dope has so much more depth. Time. It will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I think Dope far surpasses I Wanna Be With You in lyrical content and quality. I think its probably her best ballad if you only include her solo studio projects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 4,162 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ultimecia said: I Wanna Be With You's lyrics are so bland and corny to me, whereas Dope has so much more depth. Absolutely ! Just relistend to it and it truly sounds like a brain-storming writing exercise you do in summer camp. Very disconnected, the words often times don't fit the tempo of the melody and so on. Its a very nice starting point for something else (Dope) but its not finished at all. how to even compete with that? <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,634 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 i bet that’s why Brooklyn Nights and Mary Jane Holland were battling. it was probably Brooklyn Nights - I Wanna Be With You - Gypsy which is a cute little story arc. but once it became Dope, MJH made more sense. just my two cents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,605 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Dope is better. IWBWY is a cute, sappy ballad but Dope is a raw and painful song right from Gaga's heart and I ADORE her vocals in it. It's still my second favorite song tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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